Kennis and Shane discuss Gibson quality

To be honest, after buying a couple of Gibsons and checking many out in recent months, I think the decline of Gibson is very over-stated. The 2016 and and 2017 ranges are superb with many great guitars. If you go and check the guitar out in person and either do a setup yourself or get a tech (preferably a good tech at the shop you buy from) then you'll get a great guitar.

The big chains like MF, GC, etc, that don't take care of their guitars, don't set them up well, are more of the problem, imho - a good local guitar shop, owned by some bloke that loves guitars (and cares about each and every customer/building a good reputation), takes care with each guitar and sets them up well, is increasingly rare, but also so valuable, imho.
 
Mr Grumpy said:
To be honest, after buying a couple of Gibsons and checking many out in recent months, I think the decline of Gibson is very over-stated. The 2016 and and 2017 ranges are superb with many great guitars. If you go and check the guitar out in person and either do a setup yourself or get a tech (preferably a good tech at the shop you buy from) then you'll get a great guitar.

The big chains like MF, GC, etc, that don't take care of their guitars, don't set them up well, are more of the problem, imho - a good local guitar shop, owned by some bloke that loves guitars (and cares about each and every customer/building a good reputation), takes care with each guitar and sets them up well, is increasingly rare, but also so valuable, imho.
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Although I am sure they are both great players, their assesment of the technical aspects of the guitars they owned was very lacking.
 
RVA said:
Although I am sure they are both great players, their assesment of the technical aspects of the guitars they owned was very lacking.
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Stop picking on Australians, we're doing the best we can. You try getting out of bed, down 6 cans of full strength beer for breakfast, (as we all do) then talk technical stuff. I think he did rather well ... hick :-)
 
gasket said:
Stop picking on Australians, we're doing the best we can. You try getting out of bed, down 6 cans of full strength beer for breakfast, (as we all do) then talk technical stuff. I think he did rather well ... hick :)
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I want to come for holiday. Sounds like a splendid morning!
 
Gasket, He didn't say "Irishmen"

Also, here is a clip of Shane jammin on a Tele like mine which I already know is an awesome guitar.
He told me he since sold the Tele to save money for another more expensive guitar. I will see if I can find what he told me.


Now I remember, I think he and I talked on one of his live Q and A discussions and it might have been a Gib 335 he bought.
 
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So...one guy who has never owned a Gibson and another who has had two that were flawless and a couple others that either needed a setup or didn't suit him tone-wise? At least I will say that it's not the ususal level of Gibson-bashing where the company hasn't made a decent guitar since (fill in the year), but as stated above this was at best one guy's mixed and pretty limited anecdotal experience. What's also funny about it to me is that I've watched some demos that Shane has done using that 335 and felt it was the best he ever sounded.
 
Wow...his comments between 8:08 and 8:20 about dark, muddy Gibson pickup tone, is exactly what I experienced with three sets of Gibson humbuckers (2016 and 2017's) recently.
 
chilipeppermaniac said:
I was thinking about you, Robert when I saw that the 1st time.
Gball, I saw Shane on his Tokai 335,,,,,,,,, will take a look to see any of him on the Gib version.
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Its cool though, because I feel like the problems I faced with my Gibsons' really are what drove me to design my own things...and to recreate the 1984 Ibanez Destroyer II. I couldn't be happier!
 
chilipeppermaniac said:
Gasket, He didn't say "Irishmen"

Also, here is a clip of Shane jammin on a Tele like mine which I already know is an awesome guitar.
He told me he since sold the Tele to save money for another more expensive guitar. I will see if I can find what he told me.

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Sounds good!
 
Mr Grumpy said:
The big chains like MF, GC, etc, that don't take care of their guitars, don't set them up well, are more of the problem, imho - a good local guitar shop, owned by some bloke that loves guitars (and cares about each and every customer/building a good reputation), takes care with each guitar and sets them up well, is increasingly rare, but also so valuable, imho.
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I agree with this post a lot. Big chains are geared for quantity, while a successful local, mom-n-pop guitar store, pushes quality.

I remember a few conversations with the owner of my local shop discussing details including numbers and percentages of guitars and their relative manufacturers, that needed his personal attention before the guitar is allowed to be displayed for sale. He is quite busy with this part of the business.

I now offer a shameless thumbs up for my local shop: Lightning Joe's Guitar Heaven in Arroyo Grande, California.
Lightning Joes Guitar Heaven - HOME
 
I can see light through all these------this is not beer...............

THIS IS BEER
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