Gonna Try Something a Little Different...

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We play a lot of funk and Motown in the band I'm in. Normally, I play all those songs with my Stratocaster.

I'm gonna try something new.

I'm going to try those on my SG at band practice. I've been rehearsing them with the SG and I think I've got things EQ'd so it will still have that funky snap.

Should be interesting!
 
smitty_p said:
We play a lot of funk and Motown in the band I'm in. Normally, I play all those songs with my Stratocaster.

I'm gonna try something new.

I'm going to try those on my SG at band practice. I've been rehearsing them with the SG and I think I've got things EQ'd so it will still have that funky snap.

Should be interesting!
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You need L6S, it's more twangy than any strat.
 
Amp Mad Scientist said:
You need L6S, it's more twangy than any strat.
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I don't doubt what you say. But, I'm really past the point of wanting any more guitars.

Fortunately, our band doesn't have the attitude that we need to sound identical to the original artist or recording. So, we tend to experiment a little.

I've been able to EQ my sound with the SG so that it has a funky snap while practicing at home. Now, I want to hear what it sounds like through our band's PA system.

It might be kind of funny to play "Car Wash" on an SG instead of a Strat!
 
smitty_p said:
I don't doubt what you say. But, I'm really past the point of wanting any more guitars.

Fortunately, our band doesn't have the attitude that we need to sound identical to the original artist or recording. So, we tend to experiment a little.

I've been able to EQ my sound with the SG so that it has a funky snap while practicing at home. Now, I want to hear what it sounds like through our band's PA system.

It might be kind of funny to play "Car Wash" on an SG instead of a Strat!
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OK check this out...
2 hum-bucking pickups with 4 conductor wiring in an SG
or 2 HB pickups with regular wiring can be converted....

When you turn on both pickups and reverse the 2 coil wires of just 1 pickup: (a push pull pot can be used for the DPDT switch)
(you only need 1 switch for 1 PU)
I think you will get the sound you are looking for.

It will be out of phase, ultra twangy snappy, but still high output humbucking.

I don't usually use single coil mode of any pickup because of the buzz hum; I always keep the PU in humbucking mode if I wire a guitar.
I use a push pull DPDT pot for switching, I don't want any added holes for added switches on the guitar.

And also if you are doing this, shield the inside of the guitar really good before you wire it....
like shielding paint and shielding foil.
phase-reversal.jpg
 
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smitty_p said:
We play a lot of funk and Motown in the band I'm in. Normally, I play all those songs with my Stratocaster.

I'm gonna try something new.

I'm going to try those on my SG at band practice. I've been rehearsing them with the SG and I think I've got things EQ'd so it will still have that funky snap.

Should be interesting!
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MMmm:blink:
 
Amp Mad Scientist said:
OK check this out...
2 hum-bucking pickups with 4 conductor wiring in an SG
or 2 HB pickups with regular wiring can be converted....

When you turn on both pickups and reverse the 2 coil wires of just 1 pickup: (a push pull pot can be used for the switch)
I think you will get the sound you are looking for.

It will be out of phase, ultra twangy snappy, but still high output humbucking.

I don't usually use single coil mode of any pickup because of the buzz hum; I always keep the PU in humbucking mode if I wire a guitar.
I use a push pull pot for switching, I don't want any added holes for added switches on the guitar.

And also if you are doing this, shield the inside of the guitar really good before you wire it....
like shielding paint and shielding foil.
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Ampmad, " No extra holes in the guitar" is too late for mine---- it came with extra holes to me. BUT a previous owner swapped out the old bridge pickup to install a 4 conductor wire Dimarzio Al DiMeola pickup and 2 micro switches. One for out of phase and one for split coil usage.

https://imgur.com/8YwisCg
 
syscokid said:
How about some details on what you have adjusted?
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Let's wait until after I've actually tried it through the band's PA! I may have to change what I've done so far.

Don't think I'm saying that I'm trying to make my SG sound like a Strat. Nothing of the sort. I'm just trying to get a bit of that funky groove.

But, keep in mind, I am doing all this with a processor. No amplifier or traditional pedal board, so any "amplifier" or "pedal" tweaks are all within the the software for the processor.
 
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Amp Mad Scientist said:
OK check this out...
2 hum-bucking pickups with 4 conductor wiring in an SG
or 2 HB pickups with regular wiring can be converted....

When you turn on both pickups and reverse the 2 coil wires of just 1 pickup: (a push pull pot can be used for the DPDT switch)
(you only need 1 switch for 1 PU)
I think you will get the sound you are looking for.

It will be out of phase, ultra twangy snappy, but still high output humbucking.

I don't usually use single coil mode of any pickup because of the buzz hum; I always keep the PU in humbucking mode if I wire a guitar.
I use a push pull DPDT pot for switching, I don't want any added holes for added switches on the guitar.

And also if you are doing this, shield the inside of the guitar really good before you wire it....
like shielding paint and shielding foil.
phase-reversal.jpg
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I do have a push-pull pot in by box-o-stuff.

I have done the out-of-phase wiring before.

Hmmm.....

I'll see how my current tweaks sound before I get more drastic. But, I had forgotten about out-of-phase wiring.
 
smitty_p said:
I do have a push-pull pot in by box-o-stuff.

I have done the out-of-phase wiring before.

Hmmm.....

I'll see how my current tweaks sound before I get more drastic. But, I had forgotten about out-of-phase wiring.
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Smitty,

Hey, one day we have to hook up and see what you think of my '79 LP and what sense you get about setup, pickup sound, etc.

Good luck on your "sound" search with the SG etc.
 
Session 5 said:
I have 5 guitars now , and that's enough. In the future, its possible i could reduce the herd.
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I'm reducing all the time. My double neck is now a house guitar at the High Desert Rockstar's Academy.

If you cannot do it with one guitar, you cannot do it.
 
smitty_p said:
That's funny!

Seriously, though...if I can't get the sound I want with the guitars I already have, I have bigger problems to worry about!

Thanks for the encouragement, though. :love:
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You are growing. That's a good thing! The industry and forums will, however, still try to convince you more gear will make you better.
 
I gots nothing against having just one or two guitars, but I will say this: I have 6 Les Pauls and although incredibly similar to one another, each one feels and sounds unique (different size necks, different neck angles, diffferent frets, different pickups, different electronics, different neck woods, etc) and as a result each one inspires me differently, which in turn results in different sounds coming out of each one, which in turn does, frankly, make me a better player. What I mean is, although I prefer the Les Paul form factor to all others and that's all I buy, I still have 6 very different guitars that all do something useful and I could never get this versatility from a single instrument and therefore never discover certain aspects of my playing.
 
gball said:
I gots nothing against having just one or two guitars, but I will say this: I have 6 Les Pauls and although incredibly similar to one another, each one feels and sounds unique (different size necks, different neck angles, diffferent frets, different pickups, different electronics, different neck woods, etc) and as a result each one inspires me differently, which in turn results in different sounds coming out of each one, which in turn does, frankly, make me a better player. What I mean is, although I prefer the Les Paul form factor to all others and that's all I buy, I still have 6 very different guitars that all do something useful and I could never get this versatility from a single instrument and therefore never discover certain aspects of my playing.
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I really have nothing against having multiple guitars.

As for the Les Pauls, I've said before and I'll say it again here, I think they are the most gorgeous and perfectly proportioned single-cut, solid-body guitars made. They really are a beautiful thing. No other single-cut solid-body looks quite as nice to me.

But, for me (and I ONLY say this in regards to myself...I am not projecting onto anyone else!), I found that after I joined a band, I needed to really buckle down and learn material - a LOT of material! Thinking about more guitars just became a distraction and it was just more productive to work with what I had rather than to think about getting something else or something more. Again, that is ONLY ME - not directed at anyone.

Currently, I have two SGs, a Les Paul, a Strat, a Jackson Dinky, a Gretsch White Falcon, and a Taylor 415CE acoustic. I really don't want anything else.
 
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