NGD: Dean V79

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If you would like to read another one of my long winded stories, please do. If not, skip down to the pics.
It's a keeper, but almost wasnt.

I had been looking for a few years at best bang for the buck flying v style guitars. It came down to the Epiphone - much more Gibson styling, but they all have the slim taper neck profile. Not quite a deal killer for me, but I'd much prefer a deeper profile.

So, the other candidate has been the Dean V79. I dont love the headstock shape, but again, not a deal killer.
I didnt come across a good deal on a used one, so I let it ride.

In the meantime, I found the Firefly FFLV (at @ $280 shipped), and I love it, confirming I dig the V.

Since Gibson won the recent lawsuit and Dean has ceased making these (and others), I asked my wife if she would like to buy me a guitar for our 30th. wedding anniversary (coming in October). She surprisingly was enthusiastic in her support, so I went for it.

Shipped undamaged, one little finish ding on the side of the headstock. The nut was cut high and awful. I mean sounded horrible awful.
I couldn't get the G string to intonate either (I didnt realize it was because the nut slot was so high. Anyway, I broke the saddle screw reverse star type retaining washer turning the saddle around. I could intonate it (so I knew I had the range), but the saddle slides forward - exacerbated by the steep angle into the body. The washer was really brittle.

The bridge vol pot has a dead spot just below 10. The fret work is pretty good, smooth edges but a few high / low spots - typical.
Everything else is really nice, oh the jack was loose too - quality control for budget guitars.

I was going to send it back.
I contacted the Reverb seller, listed my grievances and asked for a discount for the finish damage, and if they could get Dean to send me the vol pot and a few of those pesky washers, I would be satisfied.
(I know I broke the bridge, but you should be able to reverse the saddle if it can be disassembled)

After a few messages, they cut me a small refund, and Dean sent me the pot, and a whole bridge.

It looks like someone at Dean soldered up the replacement pot to verify it, or it was a pull, I dont care.
Deoxit fader lube reduced the dead spot to a tiny spot, but it is still there. I havent changed it out yet.

They are all full size 250k B / Linear pots, work just fine taper wise. I still dont really understand them.
The pickups do not sound dark, plenty of treble on tap.

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The Blemish, since touched up with a Sharpie. (the other red mark is glare):
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Very beautiful! Both really. I was reading your story here, sucks it had a few issues but it seems like you got it figured out! Looks great from what I can see.

Only question I had was the pots: kinda weird they'd use 250k? I mean I know some builders do this to make the humbuckers less gainy and rolls off the high end a bit. But, you mentioned the pickups already being pretty big on the treble, so maybe that was a thought out decision to not make them TOO bright since they already are!
 
If you would like to read another one of my long winded stories, please do. If not, skip down to the pics.
It's a keeper, but almost wasnt.

I had been looking for a few years at best bang for the buck flying v style guitars. It came down to the Epiphone - much more Gibson styling, but they all have the slim taper neck profile. Not quite a deal killer for me, but I'd much prefer a deeper profile.

So, the other candidate has been the Dean V79. I dont love the headstock shape, but again, not a deal killer.
I didnt come across a good deal on a used one, so I let it ride.

In the meantime, I found the Firefly FFLV (at @ $280 shipped), and I love it, confirming I dig the V.

Since Gibson won the recent lawsuit and Dean has ceased making these (and others), I asked my wife if she would like to buy me a guitar for our 30th. wedding anniversary (coming in October). She surprisingly was enthusiastic in her support, so I went for it.

Shipped undamaged, one little finish ding on the side of the headstock. The nut was cut high and awful. I mean sounded horrible awful.
I couldn't get the G string to intonate either (I didnt realize it was because the nut slot was so high. Anyway, I broke the saddle screw reverse star type retaining washer turning the saddle around. I could intonate it (so I knew I had the range), but the saddle slides forward - exacerbated by the steep angle into the body. The washer was really brittle.

The bridge vol pot has a dead spot just below 10. The fret work is pretty good, smooth edges but a few high / low spots - typical.
Everything else is really nice, oh the jack was loose too - quality control for budget guitars.

I was going to send it back.
I contacted the Reverb seller, listed my grievances and asked for a discount for the finish damage, and if they could get Dean to send me the vol pot and a few of those pesky washers, I would be satisfied.
(I know I broke the bridge, but you should be able to reverse the saddle if it can be disassembled)

After a few messages, they cut me a small refund, and Dean sent me the pot, and a whole bridge.

It looks like someone at Dean soldered up the replacement pot to verify it, or it was a pull, I dont care.
Deoxit fader lube reduced the dead spot to a tiny spot, but it is still there. I havent changed it out yet.

They are all full size 250k B / Linear pots, work just fine taper wise. I still dont really understand them.
The pickups do not sound dark, plenty of treble on tap.

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The Blemish, since touched up with a Sharpie. (the other red mark is glare):
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welcome to the club... You know what to buy unlike @Clockworkmike ( we all know why)

by the way congrats....
 
If you would like to read another one of my long winded stories, please do. If not, skip down to the pics.
It's a keeper, but almost wasnt.

I had been looking for a few years at best bang for the buck flying v style guitars. It came down to the Epiphone - much more Gibson styling, but they all have the slim taper neck profile. Not quite a deal killer for me, but I'd much prefer a deeper profile.

So, the other candidate has been the Dean V79. I dont love the headstock shape, but again, not a deal killer.
I didnt come across a good deal on a used one, so I let it ride.

In the meantime, I found the Firefly FFLV (at @ $280 shipped), and I love it, confirming I dig the V.

Since Gibson won the recent lawsuit and Dean has ceased making these (and others), I asked my wife if she would like to buy me a guitar for our 30th. wedding anniversary (coming in October). She surprisingly was enthusiastic in her support, so I went for it.

Shipped undamaged, one little finish ding on the side of the headstock. The nut was cut high and awful. I mean sounded horrible awful.
I couldn't get the G string to intonate either (I didnt realize it was because the nut slot was so high. Anyway, I broke the saddle screw reverse star type retaining washer turning the saddle around. I could intonate it (so I knew I had the range), but the saddle slides forward - exacerbated by the steep angle into the body. The washer was really brittle.

The bridge vol pot has a dead spot just below 10. The fret work is pretty good, smooth edges but a few high / low spots - typical.
Everything else is really nice, oh the jack was loose too - quality control for budget guitars.

I was going to send it back.
I contacted the Reverb seller, listed my grievances and asked for a discount for the finish damage, and if they could get Dean to send me the vol pot and a few of those pesky washers, I would be satisfied.
(I know I broke the bridge, but you should be able to reverse the saddle if it can be disassembled)

After a few messages, they cut me a small refund, and Dean sent me the pot, and a whole bridge.

It looks like someone at Dean soldered up the replacement pot to verify it, or it was a pull, I dont care.
Deoxit fader lube reduced the dead spot to a tiny spot, but it is still there. I havent changed it out yet.

They are all full size 250k B / Linear pots, work just fine taper wise. I still dont really understand them.
The pickups do not sound dark, plenty of treble on tap.

View attachment 85741View attachment 85742View attachment 85743View attachment 85744

The Blemish, since touched up with a Sharpie. (the other red mark is glare):
View attachment 85745
Long live the V and Dean is a deal.
I boldly enjoy mine. I even owned a USA Jackson RR1. The Jackson was a better guitar but I just couldn't adapt my bad playing habits to fit the jumbo frets and wide neck.
Enjoy , congrats. Looks like the Tone room is morphing to a Dean influence.lol
 
You may have seen my recent Firefly Explorer NGD (fauxplorer?), and the used Epi Explorer case I got locally:

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I did mention I didnt buy the case for the Explorer.
The Vs dont fit on the rack, so this is the intended purpose:
( I brought the Dean with me to check fitment - it also does fit in the Gibson Firebird gig back I keep the Firefly V in.)

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"Like a glove!"
Not bad for $40.
I may need to do something about the cheesey (but adequate) strap.
 
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I kept bumping the points of the Firefly V on the legs of the stands I have.
I put pipe insulation I had on hand on one, it works but I need to tape them in place / but still kind of wonky.

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I looked for the hanging style stands, and found 2 packs from Fender and the MF brand Musicians Gear for $60 -80 a pair.
The NEXT DAY the MF SDOD deal was the Musicians gear 2 pack for $30, so I snagged them.
Still gotta be careful of the height or the body can hit the frame.
Works really well, sturdy and stable enough.
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I had been looking for a few years at best bang for the buck flying v style guitars. It came down to the Epiphone - much more Gibson styling, but they all have the slim taper neck profile. Not quite a deal killer for me, but I'd much prefer a deeper profile.
I do like the meatiness of Dean's V neck profile, it's comfortable! I'm a bigger dude with bigger hands so the thin little necks never felt quite right. Interesting enough though, My Epiphone V has, by far, the fattest neck of any guitars I have. It isn't the slim taper though, it's a big ol fat '58 profile, and it's even meatier than my Dean! Of course, it's not a regular old Epi V either, it's a limited edition sig model. Not usually into signature stuff, but between the neck profile and the color scheme I could not resist.

I think slim-taper is about as thin as I go, comfortably.

I've also wondered about potential tonal differences between a stopbar and the V plate with strings through. I think I might actually prefer the string through design, I don't really know why, but the guitars with that tailpiece seem to resonate much more than the stopbar tailpiece. Not something I notice too much when plugged in though. But unplugged I can definitely hear it, and I can also feel it, as the wood vibrates in my hands more intensely.
 
If the Epiphones I looked at had the fat profile, I would have that as #1 on my list instead.
The deciding factor for me pull the trigger here is the Dean wont be available, and there aren't a ton of them on the used market.
I would rather buy used, and likely would still be looking if.

Playing the Dean and Firefly A/B, the Dean is a better built guitar. But not by miles. I'm glad I got the Dean.
But, if I could only have one - with the Firefly at $280 delivered and the Dean $629 (the plain black or cherry are $569), I would take the Firefly and never look back.
The pickups in both sound great to me - or more like the brand name higher output pickups I have played compared to the budget OEM ones.
That is an even bigger plus for the Firefly.

One thing I dont like about the Dean - in theory anyway - is the steep lateral angle from the nut slots to the tuners.
The Firefly is much more straight line.
They both stay in tune fine though, so it is moot.

I have a bone nut rough cut from a blank.
I may angle the slots toward the tuners; I haven't decided yet.

The Firefly has some type of bone nut, and will stay.
The plastic Dean nut is probably ok, but I am determined to become a competent nut crafter.
 
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