James Webb Telescope

Don O said:
I'm not sure if I'd want to contact alien life. Be careful what you ask for. What if they were a million years ahead of us in technology? What if their planet's resources were used up and earth looks like nice new place for them. We might all be gone, just saying...
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We’re a generation from using up everything here. Microplastics are now showing up in 80% of blood donations that are tested. Our two mist vital resources, water and oxygen, are being destroyed at breakneck speed due to fracking, clear cutting, over consumption, and many other destructive forces because humans are so reckless. There won’t be much for aliens, except human livestock. We might be a fine delicacy in another galaxy. Or, we might be good slave labor.
 
SG John said:
We’re a generation from using up everything here. Microplastics are now showing up in 80% of blood donations that are tested. Our two mist vital recourses, water and oxygen, are being destroyed at breakneck speed due to fracking, clear cutting, over consumption, and many other destructive forces because humans are so reckless. There won’t be much for aliens, except human livestock. We might be a fine delicacy in another galaxy. Or, we might be good slave labor.
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Wasn't that a song, "We'll make great Pets"?
 
SG John said:
We’re a generation from using up everything here. Microplastics are now showing up in 80% of blood donations that are tested. Our two mist vital resources, water and oxygen, are being destroyed at breakneck speed due to fracking, clear cutting, over consumption, and many other destructive forces because humans are so reckless. There won’t be much for aliens, except human livestock. We might be a fine delicacy in another galaxy. Or, we might be good slave labor.
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And sadly, everything you said is grimly accurate and on point. Mankind is its own worst enemy in the end
 
Ghostman said:
I joined the JWST FB group years before the launch, and had to drop out yesterday. I'm all for the cool images and don't get me wrong, they are impressive. As a hobbyist photographer I can't help but awe at the shots. However, I'm also on the science side of things and would rather hear of other uses the system has been slated for. The FB group has been flooded with posts that mark these images as the second coming of the Flying Spaghetti Monster.

To me, that level of equipment is a waste to use it to show the public cool images. I was highly underwhelmed by the picture releases. The comparison shots to the Hubble were also a waste to me. Yeah, you're gonna get better images because if not, it was a failure of billions of dollars. It's like comparing a 1982 polaroid with the newest Z mirrorless from Nikon.

To me, the highlight has still been the notion that we were able to build such a device and park it where it is successfully. Not an image in the Universe, short of actual aliens, could top that for me. I'm waiting patiently for new data from the rest of JWST capabilities that provide insights far beyond high resolution photos.
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The shot with the gravitational lens is allowing us to see further back in time than ever before which seems like science to me. Also the spectral data from exoplanet's atmosphere seems really cool to me.
When images come directly of exoplanets and black holes colliding?
Sweet.
This is just the start.
 
Jethro Rocker said:
The shot with the gravitational lens is allowing us to see further back in time than ever before which seems like science to me. Also the spectral data from exoplanet's atmosphere seems really cool to me.
When images come directly of exoplanets and black holes colliding?
Sweet.
This is just the start.
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Lots more out there still to see! We successfully pulled off the impossible by capturing the first image of an elusive Black Hole from an array of ground telescopes 3 years ago. This thing could simplify that and give us even better images of one, where we might understand it even better
 
But yeah, the shots are better from JW.
No poop Sherlock! Why compare? I guess cause Hubble got such wonderful images. Shows that JW was worth it?
I can't wait to see really cool stuff that is forthcoming.
 
Jethro Rocker said:
But yeah, the shots are better from JW.
No poop Sherlock! Why compare? I guess cause Hubble got such wonderful images. Shows that JW was worth it?
I can't wait to see really cool stuff that is forthcoming.
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Also an interesting side note: 2 scrapped together probes we tossed up in the mid 70s, The Voyager 1 and 2 are not only still operating 45 years later on a mission that was only proposed to be 3-4 years, but they are now the only objects we've sent that has reached interstellar space.

There is currently a technical issue with them sending back wacky data, so the techs are literally going back to the original data manuals to send corrections to it, which is even more impressive we can do something that far away
 
Clockworkmike said:
Also an interesting side note: 2 scrapped together probes we tossed up in the mid 70s, The Voyager 1 and 2 are not only still operating 45 years later on a mission that was only proposed to be 3-4 years, but they are now the only objects we've sent that has reached interstellar space.

There is currently a technical issue with them sending back wacky data, so the techs are literally going back to the original data manuals to send corrections to it, which is even more impressive we can do something that far away
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Yep! Very cool!
Got the first pics of the outer planets. Amazing.
At some point they will not bother of course. No data to send!
Interstellar space.
Nuclear powered critters, those.
V'ger from the lame first Star Trek movie.
 
Clockworkmike said:
Also an interesting side note: 2 scrapped together probes we tossed up in the mid 70s, The Voyager 1 and 2 are not only still operating 45 years later on a mission that was only proposed to be 3-4 years, but they are now the only objects we've sent that has reached interstellar space.

There is currently a technical issue with them sending back wacky data, so the techs are literally going back to the original data manuals to send corrections to it, which is even more impressive we can do something that far away
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To me that is insanely awesome. Man-made objects outside our Solar System still functional 45 years later.
 
Ghostman said:
To me that is insanely awesome. Man-made objects outside our Solar System still functional 45 years later.
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And Chuck will be remembered for infinity and beyond.

The following music was included on the Voyager record.

  • Bach, Brandenburg Concerto No. 2 in F. First Movement, Munich Bach Orchestra, Karl Richter, conductor. 4:40
  • Java, court gamelan, "Kinds of Flowers," recorded by Robert Brown. 4:43
  • Senegal, percussion, recorded by Charles Duvelle. 2:08
  • Zaire, Pygmy girls' initiation song, recorded by Colin Turnbull. 0:56
  • Australia, Aborigine songs, "Morning Star" and "Devil Bird," recorded by Sandra LeBrun Holmes. 1:26
  • Mexico, "El Cascabel," performed by Lorenzo Barcelata and the Mariachi México. 3:14
  • "Johnny B. Goode," written and performed by Chuck Berry. 2:38
  • New Guinea, men's house song, recorded by Robert MacLennan. 1:20
  • Japan, shakuhachi, "Tsuru No Sugomori" ("Crane's Nest,") performed by Goro Yamaguchi. 4:51
  • Bach, "Gavotte en rondeaux" from the Partita No. 3 in E major for Violin, performed by Arthur Grumiaux. 2:55
  • Mozart, The Magic Flute, Queen of the Night aria, no. 14. Edda Moser, soprano. Bavarian State Opera, Munich, Wolfgang Sawallisch, conductor. 2:55
  • Georgian S.S.R., chorus, "Tchakrulo," collected by Radio Moscow. 2:18
  • Peru, panpipes and drum, collected by Casa de la Cultura, Lima. 0:52
  • "Melancholy Blues," performed by Louis Armstrong and his Hot Seven. 3:05
  • Azerbaijan S.S.R., bagpipes, recorded by Radio Moscow. 2:30
  • Stravinsky, Rite of Spring, Sacrificial Dance, Columbia Symphony Orchestra, Igor Stravinsky, conductor. 4:35
  • Bach, The Well-Tempered Clavier, Book 2, Prelude and Fugue in C, No.1. Glenn Gould, piano. 4:48
  • Beethoven, Fifth Symphony, First Movement, the Philharmonia Orchestra, Otto Klemperer, conductor. 7:20
  • Bulgaria, "Izlel je Delyo Hagdutin," sung by Valya Balkanska. 4:59
  • Navajo Indians, Night Chant, recorded by Willard Rhodes. 0:57
  • Holborne, Paueans, Galliards, Almains and Other Short Aeirs, "The Fairie Round," performed by David Munrow and the Early Music Consort of London. 1:17
  • Solomon Islands, panpipes, collected by the Solomon Islands Broadcasting Service. 1:12
  • Peru, wedding song, recorded by John Cohen. 0:38
  • China, ch'in, "Flowing Streams," performed by Kuan P'ing-hu. 7:37
  • India, raga, "Jaat Kahan Ho," sung by Surshri Kesar Bai Kerkar. 3:30
  • "Dark Was the Night," written and performed by Blind Willie Johnson. 3:15
  • Beethoven, String Quartet No. 13 in B flat, Opus 130, Cavatina, performed by Budapest String Quartet. 6:37
 
Don O said:
And Chuck will be remembered for infinity and beyond.

The following music was included on the Voyager record.

  • Bach, Brandenburg Concerto No. 2 in F. First Movement, Munich Bach Orchestra, Karl Richter, conductor. 4:40
  • Java, court gamelan, "Kinds of Flowers," recorded by Robert Brown. 4:43
  • Senegal, percussion, recorded by Charles Duvelle. 2:08
  • Zaire, Pygmy girls' initiation song, recorded by Colin Turnbull. 0:56
  • Australia, Aborigine songs, "Morning Star" and "Devil Bird," recorded by Sandra LeBrun Holmes. 1:26
  • Mexico, "El Cascabel," performed by Lorenzo Barcelata and the Mariachi México. 3:14
  • "Johnny B. Goode," written and performed by Chuck Berry. 2:38
  • New Guinea, men's house song, recorded by Robert MacLennan. 1:20
  • Japan, shakuhachi, "Tsuru No Sugomori" ("Crane's Nest,") performed by Goro Yamaguchi. 4:51
  • Bach, "Gavotte en rondeaux" from the Partita No. 3 in E major for Violin, performed by Arthur Grumiaux. 2:55
  • Mozart, The Magic Flute, Queen of the Night aria, no. 14. Edda Moser, soprano. Bavarian State Opera, Munich, Wolfgang Sawallisch, conductor. 2:55
  • Georgian S.S.R., chorus, "Tchakrulo," collected by Radio Moscow. 2:18
  • Peru, panpipes and drum, collected by Casa de la Cultura, Lima. 0:52
  • "Melancholy Blues," performed by Louis Armstrong and his Hot Seven. 3:05
  • Azerbaijan S.S.R., bagpipes, recorded by Radio Moscow. 2:30
  • Stravinsky, Rite of Spring, Sacrificial Dance, Columbia Symphony Orchestra, Igor Stravinsky, conductor. 4:35
  • Bach, The Well-Tempered Clavier, Book 2, Prelude and Fugue in C, No.1. Glenn Gould, piano. 4:48
  • Beethoven, Fifth Symphony, First Movement, the Philharmonia Orchestra, Otto Klemperer, conductor. 7:20
  • Bulgaria, "Izlel je Delyo Hagdutin," sung by Valya Balkanska. 4:59
  • Navajo Indians, Night Chant, recorded by Willard Rhodes. 0:57
  • Holborne, Paueans, Galliards, Almains and Other Short Aeirs, "The Fairie Round," performed by David Munrow and the Early Music Consort of London. 1:17
  • Solomon Islands, panpipes, collected by the Solomon Islands Broadcasting Service. 1:12
  • Peru, wedding song, recorded by John Cohen. 0:38
  • China, ch'in, "Flowing Streams," performed by Kuan P'ing-hu. 7:37
  • India, raga, "Jaat Kahan Ho," sung by Surshri Kesar Bai Kerkar. 3:30
  • "Dark Was the Night," written and performed by Blind Willie Johnson. 3:15
  • Beethoven, String Quartet No. 13 in B flat, Opus 130, Cavatina, performed by Budapest String Quartet. 6:37
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Wasn't it Carl Sagan and his wife who compiled the contents of the 2 Gold Voyager Records?

Also, hope the aliens have an old Marantz table laying around if they ever do recover them lol
 
Clockworkmike said:
Wasn't it Carl Sagan and his wife who compiled the contents of the 2 Gold Voyager Records?

Also, hope the aliens have an old Marantz table laying around if they ever do recover them lol
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From what I read Sagan lead the group that selected the songs. I think they also packed a needle and a Victoria like speaker and pictorial instructions on how to play it.
 
Amp Mad Scientist said:
They may even find viable intelligent life on our own planet (if they keep searching).
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Don O said:
And Chuck will be remembered for infinity and beyond.

The following music was included on the Voyager record.

  • Bach, Brandenburg Concerto No. 2 in F. First Movement, Munich Bach Orchestra, Karl Richter, conductor. 4:40
  • Java, court gamelan, "Kinds of Flowers," recorded by Robert Brown. 4:43
  • Senegal, percussion, recorded by Charles Duvelle. 2:08
  • Zaire, Pygmy girls' initiation song, recorded by Colin Turnbull. 0:56
  • Australia, Aborigine songs, "Morning Star" and "Devil Bird," recorded by Sandra LeBrun Holmes. 1:26
  • Mexico, "El Cascabel," performed by Lorenzo Barcelata and the Mariachi México. 3:14
  • "Johnny B. Goode," written and performed by Chuck Berry. 2:38
  • New Guinea, men's house song, recorded by Robert MacLennan. 1:20
  • Japan, shakuhachi, "Tsuru No Sugomori" ("Crane's Nest,") performed by Goro Yamaguchi. 4:51
  • Bach, "Gavotte en rondeaux" from the Partita No. 3 in E major for Violin, performed by Arthur Grumiaux. 2:55
  • Mozart, The Magic Flute, Queen of the Night aria, no. 14. Edda Moser, soprano. Bavarian State Opera, Munich, Wolfgang Sawallisch, conductor. 2:55
  • Georgian S.S.R., chorus, "Tchakrulo," collected by Radio Moscow. 2:18
  • Peru, panpipes and drum, collected by Casa de la Cultura, Lima. 0:52
  • "Melancholy Blues," performed by Louis Armstrong and his Hot Seven. 3:05
  • Azerbaijan S.S.R., bagpipes, recorded by Radio Moscow. 2:30
  • Stravinsky, Rite of Spring, Sacrificial Dance, Columbia Symphony Orchestra, Igor Stravinsky, conductor. 4:35
  • Bach, The Well-Tempered Clavier, Book 2, Prelude and Fugue in C, No.1. Glenn Gould, piano. 4:48
  • Beethoven, Fifth Symphony, First Movement, the Philharmonia Orchestra, Otto Klemperer, conductor. 7:20
  • Bulgaria, "Izlel je Delyo Hagdutin," sung by Valya Balkanska. 4:59
  • Navajo Indians, Night Chant, recorded by Willard Rhodes. 0:57
  • Holborne, Paueans, Galliards, Almains and Other Short Aeirs, "The Fairie Round," performed by David Munrow and the Early Music Consort of London. 1:17
  • Solomon Islands, panpipes, collected by the Solomon Islands Broadcasting Service. 1:12
  • Peru, wedding song, recorded by John Cohen. 0:38
  • China, ch'in, "Flowing Streams," performed by Kuan P'ing-hu. 7:37
  • India, raga, "Jaat Kahan Ho," sung by Surshri Kesar Bai Kerkar. 3:30
  • "Dark Was the Night," written and performed by Blind Willie Johnson. 3:15
  • Beethoven, String Quartet No. 13 in B flat, Opus 130, Cavatina, performed by Budapest String Quartet. 6:37
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No Metal?!


Complete Fail.
 
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