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Sapient

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Thanks again fellas. Pitch has been locking in more the last couple weeks with some dedicated practice. No natural ability here so I have to f'n work it all. Good and bad I suppose. Be nice if I just "had it", but at least working it seems to help progress.

:H5: :cheers:
 
Sapient said:
Thanks again fellas. Pitch has been locking in more the last couple weeks with some dedicated practice. No natural ability here so I have to f'n work it all. Good and bad I suppose. Be nice if I just "had it", but at least working it seems to help progress.

:H5: :cheers:
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You have a voice that works. I’ve sung bass/baritone all my singing life….. and can hold my own. But I don’t have the range and really struggle with the melody.
 
iblive said:
You have a voice that works. I’ve sung bass/baritone all my singing life….. and can hold my own. But I don’t have the range and really struggle with the melody.
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Thanks brother. Yep, pitch is pitch regardless of range, and life loves to just make it a separate obstacle. :confused:

I bet your issue is not pitch. I bet it's "scale habit". Go over say, ...a G major scale starting at the Low E string at the third fret. In my case my "vision" of the scale was slighty "off" causing "pitch" issues. I had trouble with the second scale note and the seventh. AKA ..Major 2nd and Major7th notes.

Sing up and down the scale to "lock in" its correctness then sing. Works nice but then will require a scale refresh when you go to sing again until your scale habit changes.

(y)
 
Sapient said:
Thanks brother. Yep, pitch is pitch regardless of range, and life loves to just make it a separate obstacle. :confused:

I bet your issue is not pitch. I bet it's "scale habit". Go over say, ...a G major scale starting at the Low E string at the third fret. In my case my "vision" of the scale was slighty "off" causing "pitch" issues. I had trouble with the second scale note and the seventh. AKA ..Major 2nd and Major7th notes.

Sing up and down the scale to "lock in" its correctness then sing. Works nice but then will require a scale refresh when you go to sing again until your scale habit changes.

(y)
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I get that for sure. A bit like muscle memory playing any instrument. I just don't like my voice as I get into the higher registers. Bass.... no problem. My speaking voice is lower register.....not like the basses from say, Statler Brothers or Oak Ridge Boys...... but lower than most. I've had a few too many people over the years compliment me on my bass for it to be just me thinking I do okay.

And it's not that I can't hit some of those notes. I will in a group of singers occasionally try and do the high harmony part..... but I am way more comfortable doing the bass line. Kinda been where I've lived since picking up the trombone in Jr High and HS band. When I hum along with songs on the radio many times I'm following the bass player or making up my own bass line.

And yes... if I practiced singing more, my range would get better, Both lower and higher. One year I joined the community choir at Augustana College (Rock Island Ill) to do Handel's Messiah. In combo with the Augie student choir and orchestra. 300 additional voices. It was pretty cool. But Handel did not write a bass line. It was a high Baritone. Tenor. And stupid tenor. I hurt my voice several times while doing practices, but by performance time I was hitting the notes. Some not very strong, but I was hitting them.
 
iblive said:
I get that for sure. A bit like muscle memory playing any instrument. I just don't like my voice as I get into the higher registers. Bass.... no problem. My speaking voice is lower register.....not like the basses from say, Statler Brothers or Oak Ridge Boys...... but lower than most. I've had a few too many people over the years compliment me on my bass for it to be just me thinking I do okay.

And it's not that I can't hit some of those notes. I will in a group of singers occasionally try and do the high harmony part..... but I am way more comfortable doing the bass line. Kinda been where I've lived since picking up the trombone in Jr High and HS band. When I hum along with songs on the radio many times I'm following the bass player or making up my own bass line.

And yes... if I practiced singing more, my range would get better, Both lower and higher. One year I joined the community choir at Augustana College (Rock Island Ill) to do Handel's Messiah. In combo with the Augie student choir and orchestra. 300 additional voices. It was pretty cool. But Handel did not write a bass line. It was a high Baritone. Tenor. And stupid tenor. I hurt my voice several times while doing practices, but by performance time I was hitting the notes. Some not very strong, but I was hitting them.
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To this day I don't know what my voice is regarding the baritone, tenor, bass stuff. I can go down real low or up to a high C but it's not about that ..being one of those categories is where your overall tone sits as you may all be singing the same note. The strait fact of the matter is these groups are all based on the track to sounding like a woman. Seriously. A tenor is a high voiced man, a lyrical tenor is the same but a little higher, thinner and woman sounding. Then there is the countertenor that is even higher and pretty much pure woman. Up from there IS "woman" ranges like Alto, Soprano, etc, as you already know.

Also, you probably have more range than you can imagine; the problem is it takes training or study and practice to get "higher". Believe it or not it's the combination of mixing voices to get the higher notes - it's not done as you speak or as one sings low notes. The "breathing" and all the vocal lesson elements come into play for the very reason to develop the voice into using its full range. Not easy though as you and I and many others know.

Session 5 said:
Good job on this song Sapient! learning to sing songs that correspond with your vocals is critical, you are doing a fine job!
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Thanks! :H5:
 
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