Gibson Custom Shop and Sweetwater Miss the Mark...

gball said:
Indeed, it would be the end of them. And quality right now is as good as it has ever been, so that's become a non-issue with the new managment.

The more I think about it the more I think Amp Mad Scientist has a point and we are not getting the whole story.
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gball said:
Indeed, it would be the end of them. And quality right now is as good as it has ever been, so that's become a non-issue with the new managment.

The more I think about it the more I think Amp Mad Scientist has a point and we are not getting the whole story.
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For the most part I agree. The "And quality right now is as good as it has ever been..." part is debatable, and a the least not a good sign.

Sometimes they nail it, but I see far too many complaints and seen too many things myself. I hope they get it right ASAP. I would hate to see them decline more.
 
Sp8ctre said:
Did you notice at the beginning of the video that the guitar was a special order?
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Then the guitar was deliberetly ordered
StrumerJoe said:
For the most part I agree. The "And quality right now is as good as it has ever been..." part is debatable, and a the least not a good sign.

Sometimes they nail it, but I see far too many complaints and seen too many things myself. I hope they get it right ASAP. I would hate to see them decline more.
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It has to be.

Either somebody plugged the original holes...and refinished the headstock...

Or it was deliberately ordered without the tuners installed...

Or it's a fake.

Even if it "was" Grovers to start with...they would have used Gibson Grovers.
Which is completely wrong for a reissue.

1643335247643.jpg If Gibson installed Grovers they would have used Gibson Grovers.
 
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Amp Mad Scientist said:
This is the tuner which Gibson would have used to build a LP reissue.
Not Grover.
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They're using Grovers on these...

Gibson | 1963 Les Paul SG Custom Reissue with Maestro Vibrola

<p><em>Gibson Custom Shop is the pinnacle of craftsmanship, quality, and sound excellence. Each instrument celebrates Gibson's legacy through accuracy, authenticity and attention to detail.</em></p> <p>The last year of the "Les Paul™" moniker on the SG™ Custom was also the first year of the...
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Amp Mad Scientist said:
Then the guitar was deliberetly ordered


It has to be.

Either somebody plugged the original holes...and refinished the headstock...

Or it was deliberately ordered without the tuners installed...

Or it's a fake.

Even if it "was" Grovers to start with...they would have used Gibson Grovers.
Which is completely wrong for a reissue.

View attachment 79488 If Gibson installed Grovers they would have used Gibson Grovers.
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See Post 45 and follow the link. The tuners on the guitar are factory. Gibson F'd this one up. By the way I love Gibson guitars, but they have to own up to some sloppy QC sometimes...
 
Sp8ctre said:
See Post 45 and follow the link. The tuners on the guitar are factory. Gibson F'd this one up. By the way I love Gibson guitars, but they have to own up to some sloppy QC sometimes...
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You dare question the idiot savant's scatter brained analysis?
:pound-hand:unthinkable.

Cigarettes, Coffee, Cannabis, Beer. The four basic food groups.
You wouldn't want me to walk around without eating breakfast? Don't be so cruel.

At Sweetwater:
there is a guitar tech, and there is a service manager that checks the work after the guitar is done.
At Gibson:
there is a builder, there is a set-up, there is a production QA manager inspector.

That's why I don't believe this story. Half the story is missing.
The facts don't add up.
 
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67plexi said:
I like my Gibson Custom Shop guitars they go up in value unlike most other brands.

My 1959 RI 335 was stock with grovers.

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There is only 1 type of tuner I know of that doesn't use a screw.
It mounts in the same sized hole as the Grover tuner.
It's called a "ratio" tuner.
The base plate of the tuner holds the tuner in place without a wood screw.
The only thing that holds it on the guitar is the shaft nut and washer.

I think that if anything, the intention was to install ratio tuners that don't require wood screws.
 
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