Why Cheap Out on Straplocks:

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As most of you know, Gibson has a #8 screw in the lower bout and a #6 in the upper bout.

I continually see damaged Gibsons - regardless of the brand of straplock used, because people fill in the #8 screw hole with sawdust, toothpicks, plastic WD-40 straws, epoxy, etc.

Mojoaxe makes modified #8 screws, with a machined down head, that fix the issue properly and safely. $12 for two Dual Design Dunlop Strap Buttons and a stainless #6 and #8 screw.

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Why not take the time to do it right???

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As most of you know, Gibson has a #8 screw in the lower bout and a #6 in the upper bout.

I continually see damaged Gibsons - regardless of the brand of straplock used, because people fill in the #8 screw hole with sawdust, toothpicks, plastic WD-40 straws, epoxy, etc.

Mojoaxe makes modified #8 screws, with a machined down head, that fix the issue properly and safely. $12 for two Dual Design Dunlop Strap Buttons and a stainless #6 and #8 screw.



Why not take the time to do it right???
Good point.

But, one simple answer: some people may simply not be aware such screws are available and that they are available from Mojoaxe. You maintain guitars so you live in a world where you are aware of such options. Such is not the case for most others.

No need to throw anyone under the bus.
 
Good move chamfering the finish first so the bit doesnt pull chips.
Im using #6 1-1/4" for my strap buttons without problems but I check them regularly.
 
I just play seated..... My Explorer doesnt even have strap buttons .....I never play it standing ...... problem solved--

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Good point.

But, one simple answer: some people may simply not be aware such screws are available and that they are available from Mojoaxe. You maintain guitars so you live in a world where you are aware of such options. Such is not the case for most others.

No need to throw anyone under the bus.

Not trying to throw shade on anyone, just posting the methods I've seen firsthand to install straplocks, that almost always end in disaster, and offering a solution.

I apologize that this didn't come off as a more helpful post to you, because it was designed to save a headstock. No more, no less.
 
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Not trying to throw shade on anyone, just posting the methods I've seen firsthand to install straplocks, that almost always end in disaster, and offering a solution.

I apologize that this didn't come off more helpfully.


I found nothing offensive of your comments. Only a solution to a common problem..
 
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Nope. Only time I ever almost lost a guitar was when a Dunlop straplock failed. Turned me off of straplocks for life. That was like 30+ years ago.

Never, ever had that happen. The Dunlops on my 1987 Stratocaster were still working properly after 34 years of gigging and they are still on the guitar today.

What people don't tell you is, the Grolsch washers unscrew the screws as you move around. I've seen two Les Paul headstock breaks from the Grolsch/Joe B rubber washers.

But, it's totally cool to use what you like. We are sponsored by Dunlop, so I get several sets per year.
 
Never, ever had that happen. The Dunlops on my 1987 Stratocaster were still working properly after 34 years of gigging and they are still on the guitar today.

What people don't tell you is, the Grolsch washers unscrew the screws as you move around. I've seen two Les Paul headstock breaks from the Grolsch/Joe B rubber washers.

But, it's totally cool to use what you like. We are sponsored by Dunlop, so I get several sets per year.
I put the Dunlops on one guitar and liked them very much, but they are pricey compared to the Grolsch or other rubber washer method.

So, for me / my circumstances only - the rubber washer is the best method.
I agree the rubber washers very commonly will loosen the strap pin screws, and have to be checked regularly; it is part of my routine and I dont think of it consciously anymore.
Sometimes they pop off the upper bout on some of my guitars.

I have a set or 2 of Pro Pins.
1 set is going on my Gibson Studio, I just havent gotten around to it.

The stock buttons on my Jackson are oversized (similar to the Pro Pins) and very secure.
The downside is if you switch straps around or need to remove the strap to case the guitar. The button must be removed to add or remove the strap, unless the strap end holes are super sloppy.

I play standing almost all the time and all my guitars have their own strap.
 
Never, ever had that happen. The Dunlops on my 1987 Stratocaster were still working properly after 34 years of gigging and they are still on the guitar today.

What people don't tell you is, the Grolsch washers unscrew the screws as you move around. I've seen two Les Paul headstock breaks from the Grolsch/Joe B rubber washers.

But, it's totally cool to use what you like. We are sponsored by Dunlop, so I get several sets per year.
Poppycock. Never seen it once. That’s a maintenance issue, not from the washer. And I move around A LOT when I play. Hell, they don’t even unscrew the giant modern Gibson strap buttons even with a thick leather strap.
 
Oh boy.

I hear all the stories. I've visually watched beer gaskets just pop off a button on a guitar sitting on my bench messing around with them. Many are the players rocking away who glance look down on the stage and see a grolsch rubber just laying there. And, if that washer does happen to stay put on a regular strap button, that's probably not a strap end I'd trust too far.

I've heard it direct from guitar store owners, high on customer guitar pet peeves list is: "My strap is too hard to get on my button." Customers whine and return decent straps, the :poo: rolls downhill to the manufacturer. So, the manus started putting thinner flimsy ends on straps, that are super easy to peel onto a button even by 13 year-old girl fingers. But they peel off real easy too. "OH!" Says Mr. Guitar store owner... "You should probably purchase one of these straplock systems to keep your guitar safe" CHA-CHING!!
"Let us install it for you!" CHA-CHING-A-DING-Ding!

I really do prefer using and recommend oversize strap buttons. SImple, clean, quiet, less cost, less weight.

I've fallen victim to the disintegrating dunlop ball bearings, and the old Schaller u-locks which would require you to tear away at your strap end like a rabid squirrel and squirt loc-tite just to install the damn things... folks complained to Schaller for years and years on that but they never once addressed the problem. When their patent expired, China started making knock-offs, so Schaller was basically forced to FINALLY redesign to differentiate... the new ones got way more expensive and even more complicated.

Kluson makes a cali Kustom button similar to mine, but Pro-pins come with slightly bigger hardware and a longer barrel. I don't believe in a bigger button still using a girly-man screw.

Some manus like Agile, PRS, Hamer and Gibson have used larger buttons but still with smallish screws with weak threads. Might bite ok, depending on the wood.
They also don't add any extra shaft on those buttons so a robust leather strap end on those can work exactly like a rubber washer and help jack a screw loose.

One thing I believe is super important, not mentioned much is the barrel the screw goes through should have very tight precise fit to prevent a button wibble-wobbling around if the screw gets even microscopically loose. Mine are so tight it's almost like a single piece.

I'll punch my straps for locks if folks want it (3/8 vs 5/16"). Don't like 'em much though. To me they are noisy dingmakers, subtract from the aestetics of every rig they are on, and i sure wish I had a dollar for every "straplocks failed me" story out there. User error or not.
Binkies for insecure guitarists.

Disclaimer: I designed and sell Pro-Pins. I also am the only one making Old School leather strap locks which people started requesting from me maybe 7 years ago. Took me a number of tries at it to figure those out, they are pretty good, bass players really eem to love them, but they do go against my simple is better philosophy.
 
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