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gball said:
Not really too much of an Yngwie fan. I saw him live a couple of times and it seriously felt like he just wanted to wank away and not really even play songs and have everyone worship him for it. The endless weedly-weedly got really old really fast for me (surprised I even went to see him a second time to be honest), and he had this huge wall of amps that were evidently all on and all loud that completely drowned out the rest of the band. On record I find his tone kinda ice-picky from the old days, and more recently he uses WAY too much gain so it's just mush.

Plus, let's all face it - the guy seems to be an arrogant dick
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I can relate. I do find the neo classic elements of his playing admirable and challenging to learn, so I have the utmost respect for him as an artist.
 
Robert Herndon said:
The absence of a bridge tone control alone warrants a public whipping. It's literally soldering a jumper. No excuse.

The three-barrel bridge is equally asinine.
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Fender created the Delta tone circuit in 1997, which includes incorporating a bridge tone control, as well as the ability to remove it completely from the circuit. My 2006 Strat has one.

So, whereas the original design did not consider a need for one, it was a feature which was made available on certain later models, if the buyer wished to have it.
 
Then there are these Strat Type players I enjoy, not only for their sound but their material.

Blackmore, Trower, Travers, Gilmour, Adrian Smith, Jannick Gers, Dave Murray, Mike McCready, Yngwie, and loads of others.

On the contrary, I will take a Gib playing Clapton or Townshend to the Fender versions of themselves
 
smitty_p said:
Fender created the Delta tone circuit in 1997, which includes incorporating a bridge tone control, as well as the ability to remove it completely from the circuit. My 2006 Strat has one.

So, whereas the original design did not consider a need for one, it was a feature which was made available on certain later models, if the buyer wished to have it.
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I can dig it. But, I find these kind of things so very annoying.

Amazing that it took until 1997 for the BS to get corrected...
 
chilipeppermaniac said:
Then there are these Strat Type players I enjoy, not only for their sound but their material.

Blackmore, Trower, Travers, Gilmour, Adrian Smith, Jannick Gers, Dave Murray, Mike McCready, Yngwie, and loads of others.

On the contrary, I will take a Gib playing Clapton or Townshend to the Fender versions of themselves
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You would need to deduct the Iron Maiden crew from that list, as they play modded Stratocasters.
 
smitty_p said:
Fender created the Delta tone circuit in 1997, which includes incorporating a bridge tone control, as well as the ability to remove it completely from the circuit. My 2006 Strat has one.

So, whereas the original design did not consider a need for one, it was a feature which was made available on certain later models, if the buyer wished to have it.
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I will concede, though, that I think Fender has been slow to incorporate changes.

It was into the ‘70s before they developed the five-way switch. The Delta Tone came about 43 years after the original release. They didn’t start using a reverse-wound middle pickup until the ‘80s - long after players were doing the mod themselves.

So, while I am very understanding of the original release, there are updates to the design that I think Fender was slow to adopt.

Then again, maybe Fender was concerned that players would not have been willing to accept the change.
 
Robert Herndon said:
I can dig it. But, I find these kind of things so very annoying.

Amazing that it took until 1997 for the BS to get corrected...
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Personally I would find no need of a tone control for the bridge pickup. Especially given the time it was designed in. If I needed less high end I would switch pickups. Possibly with a Strat it makes some sense, for my HB guitars I never use tone control on bridge at all. Set the amp.
 
smitty_p said:
Fender created the Delta tone circuit in 1997, which includes incorporating a bridge tone control, as well as the ability to remove it completely from the circuit. My 2006 Strat has one.

So, whereas the original design did not consider a need for one, it was a feature which was made available on certain later models, if the buyer wished to have it.
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S1 Switching?

My Am Std's have TBX
 
Robert Herndon said:
You would need to deduct the Iron Maiden crew from that list, as they play modded Stratocasters.
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Notice I typed Strat " Type"

As I would label you Robert. Even if you played a stock Fender HSS. To me a Strat is SSS. not H H HSS etc. Period

All other arrangements are "modded" as you put it. Even if a now Factory option. Kind of like of someone wanted a Yellow Ford Model T
 
Jethro Rocker said:
Personally I would find no need of a tone control for the bridge pickup. Especially given the time it was designed in. If I needed less high end I would switch pickups. Possibly with a Strat it makes some sense, for my HB guitars I never use tone control on bridge at all. Set the amp.
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I’ll add that much of the music then was bright and sparkly - think surf music.
 
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smitty_p said:
I’ll add that much of the music then was bright and sparkly - think surf music.
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True!!!!!
 
Jethro Rocker said:
Personally I would find no need of a tone control for the bridge pickup. Especially given the time it was designed in. If I needed less high end I would switch pickups. Possibly with a Strat it makes some sense, for my HB guitars I never use tone control on bridge at all. Set the amp.
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Possibly....I find the tone controls very useful in my playing.
 
chilipeppermaniac said:
Notice I typed Strat " Type"

As I would label you Robert. Even if you played a stock Fender HSS. To me a Strat is SSS. not H H HSS etc. Period

All other arrangements are "modded" as you put it. Even if a now Factory option. Kind of like of someone wanted a Yellow Ford Model T
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I've played some HSS stock Fenders that were really good!!!!
 
smitty_p said:
Fender created the Delta tone circuit in 1997, which includes incorporating a bridge tone control, as well as the ability to remove it completely from the circuit. My 2006 Strat has one.

So, whereas the original design did not consider a need for one, it was a feature which was made available on certain later models, if the buyer wished to have it.
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OUR own IVAN H replied in this forum about the Delta Circuit

My 2012 select Strat has the delta tone system as Fender stock. The "middle" pickups tone pot is a "no load" type with the detent at 10 where it unloads. The bridge pickup is also wired to it, giving the bridge, 2 position & middle all the option of with or without tone control. I can definitely hear the pot unload in the three positions. I'll never have a Strat without the delta system after trying it. The OP's guitar is definitely not stock delta with a push/pull pot. Cheers
Edit; & yes, the bridge pickup is slightly hotter than normal. Cheers

How do I use Delta Tone?

I just got a 09 American Strat with Delta Tone. I looked it up and it says the Bridge tone has a detent at 10 that runs the pickup right to the output but mine has a push-pull option. When the bridge tone knob is pulled out it changes the tone and "growl" of the bridge and middle pickups but you...
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