Gimmie A Break Gibson

When I was out for a couple of beers with Doogle this past Monday, we were talking about how Gibson should just go back to the 1958 catalogue, and only make those guitars. Maybe add a couple of SGs, Firebirds, and Thunderbirds. Otherwise, they should only produce those guitars, and drop everything else. They keep grasping for straws producing too many models, and wasting decent lumber that could be put to better uses.
 
67plexi said:
I know good wood is getting near impossible to find now days. A friend got one of the true historic LPS I played it on stage it was a dead Donkey
My 1965 SG Standard just killed it. My 2002 1960 RO took 18 years to open up it sounds like the real thing now. I felt bad for my friend what do you think
feels nice I said. And when I got the RO the pickups sounded like mud had JM Rolph make me pickups 1000% improvement.

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It's all marketing hype BS. Any given guitar can be a dog or a unicorn. This is one of the best sounding/feeling humbucker guitars I have ever played. That's why I love it so much. And it cost 5% of the price of that Murphy aged LP.

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SG John said:
When I was out for a couple of beers with Doogle this past Monday, we were talking about how Gibson should just go back to the 1958 catalogue, and only make those guitars. Maybe add a couple of SGs, Firebirds, and Thunderbirds. Otherwise, they should only produce those guitars, and drop everything else. They keep grasping for straws producing too many models, and wasting decent lumber that could be put to better uses.
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I like the cool finishes, the 60s slim neck, the modern series... but they could still cut it way down for LPs.
 
I look at it like this... The technique of relicing a guitar can be very artful. This involves a lot more operational expense in achieving the desired results. If it's done right, and with good old marketing, the manufacturer has a market for these types of guitars. The manufacturers can charge whatever they want, but usually this has been analyzed to what they think the consumer will accept.

AFAIK, these high dollar reliced guitars are all selling. It's not like Gibson is making a bunch of these because these are actually very limited. So you have a choice here: Buy one, or not buy one. Gibson will always make shinny examples too. Personally, I admire the work and creativity of a beautifully done reliced guitar... but I choose to never fork out a butt-load of money to own one.

Howfrickingever... If I was very wealthy, I just might buy a $10,000 reliced (Gibson) guitar and hang in a beautiful display case as living room wall art... and never play it!
 
gball said:
I'm probably the biggest Gibson apologist on this forum and even I hate all the fake aging and VOS finishes.. That being said, the only Custom Shop Gibson I am interested in is a Les Paul Custom and those come all shiny and new just as they should.
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We might have to arm wrestle for the title. When I was getting my $8k quote for a M2M lefty tuxedo custom they actually asked me if I wanted shiny or VOS. They will do it.
 
syscokid said:
I look at it like this... The technique of relicing a guitar can be very artful. This involves a lot more operational expense in achieving the desired results. If it's done right, and with good old marketing, the manufacturer has a market for these types of guitars. The manufacturers can charge whatever they want, but usually this has been analyzed to what they think the consumer will accept.

AFAIK, these high dollar reliced guitars are all selling. It's not like Gibson is making a bunch of these because these are actually very limited. So you have a choice here: Buy one, or not buy one. Gibson will always make shinny examples too. Personally, I admire the work and creativity of a beautifully done reliced guitar... but I choose to never fork out a butt-load of money to own one.

Howfrickingever... If I was very wealthy, I just might buy a $10,000 reliced (Gibson) guitar and hang in a beautiful display case as living room wall art... and never play it!
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Yep to each his own. but unless it is a Make Your Own from Gibson, you cannot get a 1960 reissue without crap all over the hardware. Not according to their website. They are all VOS.
Dumb.
I bought 5 new Gibsons since 2017. They can cater to a wider range of customers.
 
yargnad has a point, but if I may be crass,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, I am sure that with our perverted society in the 2021's, there may just be a market for anything someone may offer for sale, ( memories of seeing news stories or reports of USED underwear or other fetish type grossness) on ebay back in the early 2000's if I remember right.

But just because there is a market for it, doesn't mean it should be accepted, endorsed or profited from, just because it can be. Used birth control devices come to mind even if loads of people were willing to pay money for it.
I sort of feel like if one wants to make argument that let the free market dictate, in such a similar manner with relic'd guitars,. Well, let all who have more money than sense keep buying ugly pre beat up guitars at inflated prices, I will keep buying decent condition to exceptional almost new guitars at reasonable prices. No judgment levied either way.

Of course if it is a rarity thing that makes the price vs demand interplay happen, this is simple economics. Only so many Picasso's out there.
 
No elitism in this Forum.

I suspect only a few ladies and fellas here are of the financial means to spend the over $2k-$3k USD for a guitar or 10, and to not think twice about doing so. I also don't see many who would spend $5K + on any. And Certainly fewer who go 5 figures to 6 figures on one.

If I may speak for the general population in here. I don't think I can name one cork sniffer in the bunch.
 
I really did like the feel and sound of the MIM Road Worn I tried at the mom n pop shop to be honest. I didn't like the guitar because it was relic'd, but the neck felt and played perfect, plus it sounded sweet too. I didn't get it, even though I think it was roughly $475-$575 brand new IIRC.
 
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