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Biddlin
Guest
I have been wondering about this "genre" or more specifically wondering what the appeal of grinding, buzzing strings, exaggerated palm mutes and voice coil shattering distortion is?
Djent = What I sound like after a quart of Scotch
Hmmm...back in the '70s I remember some people wondering similar things about the music we now call, "Classic Rock."
OP
Biddlin
Guest
But they were stupid old fartknockers.............................oh yeah, dammit!
OP
Biddlin
Guest
I wish I could tell you about the first time I saw Grace sing with the Airplane, but I can't remember the name of the club or much else besides Grace and the Band. There may have been a light show. There was definitely acid. Definitely acid. It was in an old bar in North Beach with about 120 person capacity. There was a $2.50 cover charge. They were the opening act for Big Foot. Remember them?
DonP
Guest
Grace always makes it better. And I think White Rabbit may be the only rock song played crescendo from start to finish. Later releases won't of course - they will have had the life compressed out of them.
chilipeppermaniac
Ambassador of Decibels
Don, I really dug that song as I grew up. Come to think of it, it does crescendo all the way thru. Sick subtle creation the Airplane created there.
And then there was this...
By the middle of 1978, Jefferson Airplane had upgraded to Starship and were in the process of running out of fuel. The band (including singer Grace Slick) was on tour in Europe to promote the recently released ‘Earth’ album when a stop in Germany deteriorated into a confusing mess. “She’d always had a thing about Germany,” wrote Jeff Tamarkin in the band bio ‘Got a Revolution!’ “All things Deutsche brought out the worst in her.”
During the tour of Europe, Slick had fallen ill. At first, everyone thought her stomach virus was a result of food poisoning. But a doctor diagnosed appendicitis and told Slick she was well enough to perform. A show in Wiesbaden was canceled, but the next night’s concert in Hamburg was still on.
As showtime neared, Slick tore into an alcohol-fueled tantrum, throwing bottles, refusing to get ready for the concert and demanding more booze from room service. By the time the band got onstage, she was in no condition to perform. The show was filmed for the German music program ‘Rockpalast,’ but the episode never aired. Maybe because Slick began taunting the audience, repeatedly asking, “Who won the war?” She also called them Nazis and gave the ‘Heil Hitler!’ salute onstage.
“I’m in Germany and I’m gonna get back at them for Dachau, or some dumb drunken decision,” Slick recalled in Tamarkin’s book. “That’s what that night was about: dumb, drunken decisions. So they started walking out, but they kept coming back, like, Maybe she’ll do something really hideous and we will have missed it. A freak show.” Starship’s publicist, Cynthia Bowman, remembered that “you could just see all the life drain out of the group. It was just a horrible, empty, bad, dark night.”
Following the Hamburg debacle, Slick was asked to resign from the band by guitarist Paul Kantner. She did. But she rejoined Jefferson Starship three years later, just in time for their ‘Modern Times’ album.
Read More: 35 Years Ago: Grace Slick Quits Jefferson Starship After Drunken Germany Show | 35 Years Ago: Grace Slick Quits Jefferson Starship After Drunken Germany Show
And then there was this...
By the middle of 1978, Jefferson Airplane had upgraded to Starship and were in the process of running out of fuel. The band (including singer Grace Slick) was on tour in Europe to promote the recently released ‘Earth’ album when a stop in Germany deteriorated into a confusing mess. “She’d always had a thing about Germany,” wrote Jeff Tamarkin in the band bio ‘Got a Revolution!’ “All things Deutsche brought out the worst in her.”
During the tour of Europe, Slick had fallen ill. At first, everyone thought her stomach virus was a result of food poisoning. But a doctor diagnosed appendicitis and told Slick she was well enough to perform. A show in Wiesbaden was canceled, but the next night’s concert in Hamburg was still on.
As showtime neared, Slick tore into an alcohol-fueled tantrum, throwing bottles, refusing to get ready for the concert and demanding more booze from room service. By the time the band got onstage, she was in no condition to perform. The show was filmed for the German music program ‘Rockpalast,’ but the episode never aired. Maybe because Slick began taunting the audience, repeatedly asking, “Who won the war?” She also called them Nazis and gave the ‘Heil Hitler!’ salute onstage.
“I’m in Germany and I’m gonna get back at them for Dachau, or some dumb drunken decision,” Slick recalled in Tamarkin’s book. “That’s what that night was about: dumb, drunken decisions. So they started walking out, but they kept coming back, like, Maybe she’ll do something really hideous and we will have missed it. A freak show.” Starship’s publicist, Cynthia Bowman, remembered that “you could just see all the life drain out of the group. It was just a horrible, empty, bad, dark night.”
Following the Hamburg debacle, Slick was asked to resign from the band by guitarist Paul Kantner. She did. But she rejoined Jefferson Starship three years later, just in time for their ‘Modern Times’ album.
Read More: 35 Years Ago: Grace Slick Quits Jefferson Starship After Drunken Germany Show | 35 Years Ago: Grace Slick Quits Jefferson Starship After Drunken Germany Show
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Walks Backward
Well-Known Member
I recall in the late 50's established musical folks rejecting the budding and up and coming Rock & Roll as music that was from the devil himself and totally evil. So what's wrong here? Prejudice still around huh? Ok, but they're having fun though so is that hurting anyone? Sorry, I don't see the big deal here.
Sérgio
Ambassador of CaliZilian Affairs
No prejudice on my part, but I must confess, I never, EVER felt attracted by nor interested in any kind of speed playig, or excesive squealing.
This modern use of the guitar really doesn't appeal to me. I think that's why I don't really crave for any kind of superstrat or any guitar model that was released after 1975.
I can appreciate modern rock n roll, but only as long as it keeps "classic" in structure. Maybe it's just that I'm as limited as a listener as I am as a player, but I much prefer guys who can ROCK with 4 chords and an expressive short solo. Like these:
This modern use of the guitar really doesn't appeal to me. I think that's why I don't really crave for any kind of superstrat or any guitar model that was released after 1975.
I can appreciate modern rock n roll, but only as long as it keeps "classic" in structure. Maybe it's just that I'm as limited as a listener as I am as a player, but I much prefer guys who can ROCK with 4 chords and an expressive short solo. Like these:
Tony M.
Ambassador
I read "Got a Revolution". It's more of a history lesson about
the late 60's west coast than a Jefferson Airplane history.
I don't shred but I do own a "superstrat", A Music Man Luke,
HSS, active pickups and a battery. It' actually a good guitar.
"Your parents didn't like your music either Daddy."
- My daughter when she was 14 years old -
the late 60's west coast than a Jefferson Airplane history.
I don't shred but I do own a "superstrat", A Music Man Luke,
HSS, active pickups and a battery. It' actually a good guitar.
"Your parents didn't like your music either Daddy."
- My daughter when she was 14 years old -
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DonP
Guest
To quote David Mitchell. I wasn't sorry it stopped.