New high out pickups

SG John said:
Their address used to be in Mendon, MA. It's a very rural/suburban part of the state. Their address was residential, not a light industrial or strip mall address. Probably made enough off cheap Chinese labor to move down south, and get away from New England winters.
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I guess the guitars are Chinese and most of the hardware and stuff like that must be. But the pickups are made by Artec in Korea, and those guys quietly produce a lot of OEM stuff for all kinds of makers. Top-line stuff for very little coin.
 
gball said:
Hey, we've talked about this. Some of the best pickups I have ever used are the Guitar Fetish Pro series. Like $35 apiece and easily the equal of the big boys.
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Silly boy.

Didn‘t you know that copper wire and magnets magically change their physical properties to produce a better sound once you put a high price tag on the final product?

Cheap pickups sound good?

Pffft!
 
smitty_p said:
Silly boy.

Didn‘t you know that copper wire and magnets magically change their physical properties to produce a better sound once you put a high price tag on the final product?

Cheap pickups sound good?

Pffft!
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The price is like a magic wand. Instantly makes them better!

One thing I have never understood is the pricing of Seymour Duncan...it's all over the place. DiMarzio's are relatively inexpensive. Some of the smaller winders are just ridiculous...tried a set of Lollars and that is just a joke for what he charges.

Anyway, the pickups are still not here, and I think I have changed my mind about what guitar they are going into anyway.
 
since there is thread already about pickups ill write my question here instead of starting the thread.

i have a cheap guitar its by rockson (never heard of them) until i bought one.i was on long holiday and i was getting bored and i bought guitar. im thinking is it worth changing pick ups and electronics? vol ton tone and switch they are all fu**ed tuners are poop.. only thing i like about this guitar is the weight.i have pickups laying around and if i buy new pots and switch,how easy is to change and is it even worth it? i never have done it before. any advice???
 
yes----if you like the guitar -- the wood and neck are good....its certainly worth the effort (even though it involves that evil demon.....SOLDERING!!!!!!.......it is worth the time and effort and you may find you have an AWESOME guitar when finished. :)
which makes it a rewarding endeavor as well......and COULD even be a good father/son learning homeschooling type project???? ;)
 
SG John said:
Their address used to be in Mendon, MA. It's a very rural/suburban part of the state. Their address was residential, not a light industrial or strip mall address. Probably made enough off cheap Chinese labor to move down south, and get away from New England winters.
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I bought from Jack at GFS for years. He left about the time they moved. I used to receive GFS picmups in Artec boxes....
 
gball said:
The price is like a magic wand. Instantly makes them better!

One thing I have never understood is the pricing of Seymour Duncan...it's all over the place. DiMarzio's are relatively inexpensive. Some of the smaller winders are just ridiculous...tried a set of Lollars and that is just a joke for what he charges.

Anyway, the pickups are still not here, and I think I have changed my mind about what guitar they are going into anyway.
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I have some Gibson stamped humbuckers with double slugs. Not sure where i got them.
They are in a big box of used pickups.

Wonder what they are??? Baseplates read 'Gibson USA.'

I also have a Gibson 490 (IIRC) that is stamped 'Artec' over Gibson USA stamping and a pair of Artec Classic Standards that have "Gibson USA" ground down, but not enough to completely erase it, with the Artec barcode and 'ROHS' stickers over that.

I contacted Artec customer support about this (in 2017) and they offered to replace the pickups stating that they produce baseplates for Gibson and it was a manufacturing error.

To be totally honest, i doubt that Gibson is being 100% truthful about where some of their products are being produced.
 
Robert Herndon said:
I have some Gibson stamped humbuckers with double slugs. Not sure where i got them.
They are in a big box of used pickups.

Wonder what they are??? Baseplates read 'Gibson USA.'

I also have a Gibson 490 (IIRC) that is stamped 'Artec' over Gibson USA stamping and a pair of Artec Classic Standards that have "Gibson USA" ground down, but not enough to completely erase it, with the Artec barcode and 'ROHS' stickers over that.

I contacted Artec customer support about this (in 2017) and they offered to replace the pickups stating that they produce baseplates for Gibson and it was a manufacturing error.

To be totally honest, i doubt that Gibson is being 100% truthful about where some of their products are being produced.
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You can watch them winding the coils on the factory tour, and I do believe all final assembly is done in Nashville, but those parts (baseplates, bobbins, mags, etc, are coming from somewhere. All I know is all of the Artec/GFS pickups I have used are as good or better than anything else out there at any price. I'd drop them into any guitar without hesitation, and I honestly can't say the same for Seymour Duncans.
 
Would agree-- I have yet to buy a GFS pickup I didnt like---
Ive never pulled a GFS and replaced it with a Gibson pickup -- I have replaced SEVERAL Gibson pups with GFS....Guitarmadness......Epiphone.......etc
guess thats why they make ALL kinds ;)
 
ANd as a "side" gball--- they have pickup winding machines in the Tampa plant of the Dean company---and they WIND them in front of you and SHOW you how they do it ----but ---Im gonna wager (the 3 machines and 2 guys they had doing it during the tour) cant POSSIBLY put out the volume of pickups needed........so there are some China or Korea or something pups making up the difference. ;)
I did buy one of the USA Zebra vintage voiced humbuckers -- it was VERY good and was wound here in the TAMPA swamps USA -- and was under 70.00 -- ;)
--purchased factory direct--
 
Ramo said:
since there is thread already about pickups ill write my question here instead of starting the thread.

i have a cheap guitar its by rockson (never heard of them) until i bought one.i was on long holiday and i was getting bored and i bought guitar. im thinking is it worth changing pick ups and electronics? vol ton tone and switch they are all fu**ed tuners are poop.. only thing i like about this guitar is the weight.i have pickups laying around and if i buy new pots and switch,how easy is to change and is it even worth it? i never have done it before. any advice???
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You got bored and bought a guitar? You will fit in here at TTR just fine
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Hey guys


I got dumb question , can you take cover of from covered pickups and put it on different one?


What im thinking to do is, to take Dimarzio D activators from my king V and put it in my ltd Lp and use original covers that are in it now.as for V i’ll put bareknuckle, not sure which ones yet, but it will be high output for sure.


Cheers
 
Ramo said:
can you take cover of from covered pickups and put it on different one?
Cheers
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Yes & it's not too difficult, I've done it a couple of times.
Rather than trying to de-solder the cover/baseplate joinings, I've just carefully cut through the solder with a Stanley knife or box cutter type knife. Be careful not to damage the pickup windings. Some I've had to slightly warm the cover to get it to release (potting wax), but others not, even though they were potted.
When fitting the cover to the other pickup you'll want to encorporate some type of damping (to prevent microphonics from the cover vibrating). I use a small piece of that thin, very loose weave gauze type bandage that they use in hospitals. Fold over to form 3 layers about 1/4" wide & cut to length a bit shorter than the pickup coils length. Soak the folded gauze bandage piece in wax & place along the top of the humbucker, between the screw & slug poles.
When putting the cover on I've warmed the cover enough to soften the wax, then squeeze it down & solder the cover to the baseplate, done. Hope this helps. Cheers
 
ivan H said:
Yes & it's not too difficult, I've done it a couple of times.
Rather than trying to de-solder the cover/baseplate joinings, I've just carefully cut through the solder with a Stanley knife or box cutter type knife. Be careful not to damage the pickup windings. Some I've had to slightly warm the cover to get it to release (potting wax), but others not, even though they were potted.
When fitting the cover to the other pickup you'll want to encorporate some type of damping (to prevent microphonics from the cover vibrating). I use a small piece of that thin, very loose weave gauze type bandage that they use in hospitals. Fold over to form 3 layers about 1/4" wide & cut to length a bit shorter than the pickup coils length. Soak the folded gauze bandage piece in wax & place along the top of the humbucker, between the screw & slug poles.
When putting the cover on I've warmed the cover enough to soften the wax, then squeeze it down & solder the cover to the baseplate, done. Hope this helps. Cheers
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Thank you for your replay by sound of it , i think this is not the job ill be able to do myself.

Ill take it to tech , when im ready. Or leave dimarzzios in and just change the ltd ones.
 
ivan H said:
Yes & it's not too difficult, I've done it a couple of times.
Rather than trying to de-solder the cover/baseplate joinings, I've just carefully cut through the solder with a Stanley knife or box cutter type knife. Be careful not to damage the pickup windings. Some I've had to slightly warm the cover to get it to release (potting wax), but others not, even though they were potted.
When fitting the cover to the other pickup you'll want to encorporate some type of damping (to prevent microphonics from the cover vibrating). I use a small piece of that thin, very loose weave gauze type bandage that they use in hospitals. Fold over to form 3 layers about 1/4" wide & cut to length a bit shorter than the pickup coils length. Soak the folded gauze bandage piece in wax & place along the top of the humbucker, between the screw & slug poles.
When putting the cover on I've warmed the cover enough to soften the wax, then squeeze it down & solder the cover to the baseplate, done. Hope this helps. Cheers
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i watched youtube video on this subject, it dose not look too hard to do. but i reilised the covers i wanted to use they have screws and one wanted to put in it dose not :( a well lol


im thinking to put bareknuckls holy diver
 
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