Papa's Got A Brand New Amp -

Robert Herndon said:
Remember that Angus Young's tone was forged by the clean boost of the Schaffer Wireless, so his JMP wouldn't sound the same without it.
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Actually, the first 5 albums (High Voltage, TNT, Dirty Deeds, Let there Be Rock & Powerage) were recorded without the use of the Schaffer Vega wireless system. It wasn't until the recording of Highway To Hell that Mutt Lange suggested using it for recording. Malcom had discovered the Schaffer Vega wireless system & put Angus onto it not all that long before this. So it was used for highway to hell, back in black, for those about to rock & maybe the next two, flick of the switch & fly on the wall. After that, they hadn't been using the Schaffer Vega's for quite some time (they were out of production in '85) until Solodallas "revived" them, presenting Angus with the first production unit.
So the Origin 50 should get very close to nailing any of the first 5 album tones.
I know my '68 JMP50 clone will, no boosting needed, not even diming it.
An SG with T top type pickups &
7.5 on the bright channel volume will easily get it into Powerage "up to my neck in you" or "kicked in the teeth" territory. Cheers
 
ivan H said:
Actually, the first 5 albums (High Voltage, TNT, Dirty Deeds, Let there Be Rock & Powerage) were recorded without the use of the Schaffer Vega wireless system. It wasn't until the recording of Highway To Hell that Mutt Lange suggested using it for recording. Malcom had discovered the Schaffer Vega wireless system & put Angus onto it not all that long before this. So it was used for highway to hell, back in black, for those about to rock & maybe the next two, flick of the switch & fly on the wall. After that, they hadn't been using the Schaffer Vega's for quite some time (they were out of production in '85) until Solodallas "revived" them, presenting Angus with the first production unit.
So the Origin 50 should get very close to nailing any of the first 5 album tones.
I know my '68 JMP50 clone will, no boosting needed, not even diming it.
An SG with T top type pickups &
7.5 on the bright channel volume will easily get it into Powerage "up to my neck in you" or "kicked in the teeth" territory. Cheers
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I had forgotten that chronology. Thanks for pointing that out...
 
ivan H said:
Actually, the first 5 albums (High Voltage, TNT, Dirty Deeds, Let there Be Rock & Powerage) were recorded without the use of the Schaffer Vega wireless system. It wasn't until the recording of Highway To Hell that Mutt Lange suggested using it for recording. Malcom had discovered the Schaffer Vega wireless system & put Angus onto it not all that long before this. So it was used for highway to hell, back in black, for those about to rock & maybe the next two, flick of the switch & fly on the wall. After that, they hadn't been using the Schaffer Vega's for quite some time (they were out of production in '85) until Solodallas "revived" them, presenting Angus with the first production unit.
So the Origin 50 should get very close to nailing any of the first 5 album tones.
I know my '68 JMP50 clone will, no boosting needed, not even diming it.
An SG with T top type pickups &
7.5 on the bright channel volume will easily get it into Powerage "up to my neck in you" or "kicked in the teeth" territory. Cheers
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What does the "Boost" control actually do on the Origin 50H???
 
Robert Herndon said:
What does the "Boost" control actually do on the Origin 50H???
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I have no idea how it works, but if you have the footswitch plugged in you activate it and the amp responds, can also use it as a lead boost to an extent, I have been leaving mine off and just use the SD1 or the Joyo ultimate drive, it’s been working for me in this manner.
I also get a better clarity of notes in this way, less mud because I don’t have a full plethora of quality speakers.
Cheers
 
Mitch Pearrow SJMP said:
I have no idea how it works, but if you have the footswitch plugged in you activate it and the amp responds, can also use it as a lead boost to an extent, I have been leaving mine off and just use the SD1 or the Joyo ultimate drive, it’s been working for me in this manner.
I also get a better clarity of notes in this way, less mud because I don’t have a full plethora of quality speakers.
Cheers
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I am just curious about how the circuitry is made and what components are involved when its activated....
 
Robert Herndon said:
I know students who have bought JTM45 amps and Plexi reissues, only to be pissed that they don't produce any real gain.

The old Marshalls are very clean, loud amps...but you won't get more than AC/DC gain without a clean boost.
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steveb63 said:
Agreed 100%

But when boosted they have some great harmonic content, at least to my worn out ears.
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The harmonic feedback is what I love about those old JTM and JMP amps. Set the guitar up right, turn up the amp, add a boost of some sort, and work your hands and the guitar's volume knobs to get that nice note "bloom" and other fun stuff. I've had people tell me they can tell what my amp was doing to do next by the way I was smiling while playing.

And then, if you really want to make their ears bleed, try to accomplish the same with a Hiwatt.
 
SG John said:
The harmonic feedback is what I love about those old JTM and JMP amps. Set the guitar up right, turn up the amp, add a boost of some sort, and work your hands and the guitar's volume knobs to get that nice note "bloom" and other fun stuff. I've had people tell me they can tell what my amp was doing to do next by the way I was smiling while playing.

And then, if you really want to make their ears bleed, try to accomplish the same with a Hiwatt.
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Let me tell you this, John...I have never been so pleased with a purchase. The "back-to-basics" Origin amp is so simple...and the 34 pound 2x12 cabinet is effortless to load. Keep in mind that I sometimes load/unload 4 times per day (into the trunk at home, out of the trunk at the studio, then back in the trunk to go home, and in and ut at rehearsal two nights a week)

Now, I will be the first to admit, that without a Tube Screamer it's nothing more than an early AC/DC tone, but once the TS-9 is kicked in, Lord have mercy, the amp is solid 1990's George Lynch #39 tone.

I routinely get compliments from other bands (some hang out when we are setting up) that the amp sounds bigger than it looks and it's loud without being ear piercing.

I'm just over the moon with this setup...
 
Robert Herndon said:
Let me tell you this, John...I have never been so pleased with a purchase. The "back-to-basics" Origin amp is so simple...and the 34 pound 2x12 cabinet is effortless to load. Keep in mind that I sometimes load/unload 4 times per day (into the trunk at home, out of the trunk at the studio, then back in the trunk to go home, and in and ut at rehearsal two nights a week)

Now, I will be the first to admit, that without a Tube Screamer it's nothing more than an early AC/DC tone, but once the TS-9 is kicked in, Lord have mercy, the amp is solid 1990's George Lynch #39 tone.

I routinely get compliments from other bands (some hang out when we are setting up) that the amp sounds bigger than it looks and it's loud without being ear piercing.

I'm just over the moon with this setup...
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I’m happy to see that Marshall is going back to simple. It was what they did best. If we can ever start gigging again, I may have to look into one of those.
 
Robert Herndon said:
I agree that simple is best. The only 'downside' (if you can call it that) is it doesn't produce much gain without a TS-9.

This is ALL you can get from it without a pedal:

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Y'know, its a funny thing. My Mark 5 has all the gain in the world, but I have been running it most of the time at about 10/11 o'clock, which although still more than that TNT-type of grind, is really just barely ticking over on a Mesa. Then I goose the thing with a TS-9 or an SD-1 and it's all I could ask for. I'm not using as much gain in general as I used to, so I have been liking the more open sound of putting an OD in front and letting the power tubes do more work. There are some really complex harmonics and overtones in the amp when you start to wind up the gain, but it has sooooo much gain that it will start to compress pretty quickly so you have to be careful with it if you want to keep the dynamics.
 
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