NOAD Fender Super 60

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My first amp was a Marshall MG15CDR. When that wasn't loud enough, a friend's dad sold me a Fender Super 60. When I quit playing the last time the amp sat around for a couple of years and then I sold it.

I've been thinking of building an amp but the price of the cabinets and chassis have put me off a bit. Also, since I usually dive into stuff head first, building a kit isn't really my kind of thing :) Well, today I picked up this for less than the price of an empty 1x12 cabinet:

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Would've been funny if it was my original unit but it probably isn't. I still have the footswitch from the one I had before and this has one as well.. Also this one has what look to be the original preamp tubes, I replaced mine with EH in the preamp and Sovtek in the power amp, as the power tubes in my old one rattled... I don't remember if I had GT's or what before. I remember someone had GT's back then but don't know if it was me or someone else :D

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The guy who sold it said the power tubes are shot and he was probably right. There's something loose in the left one and the leg of the getter is bent. I plugged it in, played a bit and it doesn't sound half bad to be honest... Much better than I remembered but I probably have different sensibilities and EQ settings now :) But initially there was a lot of hum which did disappear, but was replaced by high pitched "shrieks" and sudden loss of sustain/volume. The reverb is garbage, much worse than the BJr. But I remember that on the other one I had it hummed quite loudly when turned up, on this one it doesn't do that.

Anyway, my current plan is to convert this into a "RR763 Blackvibe" but with a solid state rectifier. I'm planning to re-use at least the cabinet, chassis, PT, OT, choke, tube sockets and probably initially the preamp tubes and speaker as well... as well as some other minor bits like the glorious red knobs, power/standby switches and the pilot light. If manage to do all that I'll look into adding reverb (maybe 6BM8 based)

I have a rough sketch of the HT power supply adapted to the power transformer in this amp already. So I guess my next step will be to finish a full schematic and open up the amp to verify some stuff before making a BOM and ordering parts... To be continued...
 
I'm told from one of my tube suppliers that the 6L6GC production has ceased I hope not
Tube Depot has them.

 
Tube Depot has them.


Far Rider, I like your avatar! (y)
 
Very cool.

An 8 year old article but if going to gut it anyway, it might be interesting to mod it a little first and see where it ends up.

 
An 8 year old article but if going to gut it anyway, it might be interesting to mod it a little first and see where it ends up.

All of the mods for the red-knobs online seem to mostly concern modifying the overdrive channel. As a mostly clean player for the time being I don't really care about the OD channel anyway... And as the PCB is mounted upside down in the chassis, these amps are a bit of a nightmare to work on. Hence my idea of just using it as a basis for something else.

I've attached my first attempt at a schematic. @Amp Mad Scientist , @ivan H any idea how much smoke and pieces of hot glass and metal to expect if I build this? :)

It's based on the RR673 "BlackVibe" which is basically a Vibroverb with the reverb and tremolo removed. But I added a presence control, simplified the bias circuit and the power supply is based around the existing PT and is SS rectified... I've simulated it with psud2 and if my load estimations are even close, I should be looking at 470ish V @ node A, ~465 V @ B, ~450 @ C and ~410 @ D under load?

While writing this I thought of adding back the 30k 10W resistor that's in the original Super 60 schematic. I guess this prevents the voltages from soaring somewhat in addition to lowering them in general?

EDIT a few minor tweaks...
 
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Alright, last night I pulled out the PCB. I think the problem it originally had might've been that the 10W resistor was loose. The joys of heated PCB's...

Anyway, not going to use the existing tube sockets as there's no mounting holes on the preamp sockets and lugs are easier to solder into anyway than the PCB pins. They're not that expensive anyway.

I dropped the 10W resistor from my power supply and decreased the second stage filtering to 22u. Fiddled arond with the resitor values a bit too... I also put the correct OT symbol / wire colours in the schematic.

There's quite a lot of space but it' s not very conveniently arranged, unless I cover up the existing preamp tube holes with a piece of steel and make new ones next to the power tubes. Then I wouldn't have to run the heater wires all over the place which might be nice...

Haven't started the layout yet, that'll be next once I have the complete BOM. But now it sounds like my son has woken up from his nap so that'll have to wait for a while :)

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EDIT: parts ordered, working on the layout, found some minor mess-ups on the schematic...
 
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Should have almost all the parts now, started working on the board. Looks like I forgot to drill a few holes but can't run the drill since everyone else is asleep. Maybe tomorrow.

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