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The famous official pandemic virus, may not be nearly as spread out from contagiousness, as one might think. Normal flu virus can be similar, same with Pneumonia. Some general corona diseases have been showing up as false positives for covid19!!! So lets take some of the official story, as THEORY, that may or may not change in the future.

So in fact, this pandemic may be more of something other than what the official story says. So while one can not rule out certain things, on the other hand, neither can the official story be more believable.

I find the theory behind the Invisible rainbow, to be the most compelling, and happens to fit EVERY major pandemic in modern times! So the theory deserves serious thought. I'm not saying your wrong, just perhaps ease up on the pandemic spread nature of it all, as that is fully in question as to what is actually pandemic and what is not. Even the best science can not say for sure as this usually takes large data collection from large pools of society.

So I'm not saying there is no viral problem, there is, but the nature of that problem, may not be the same, and in fact I feel is very different from, the pandemic nature of this whole thing. Two very different issues, and I take it all quite seriously.

Let's just make a clarification here: (not a political statement)
The virus does not care who you vote for, or what political party you belong to.


A. The Virus is 100 times more contagious than influenza.
B. This virus is extremely dangerous.
C. This Virus is not pneumonia, or the flu. This Virus is SARS.
D. There is no cure, vaccine or treatment for this Virus.
E. The Virus continues to spread and has not been eliminated or contained.

F. "re-opening" is very reckless and will only cause more spread (that is already well documented) Cases of infection are sharply rising day by day since re-opening, that is verified.

Your most effective action is to wear a mask / face covering, any time you are in public places.
All persons in public places should wear face coverings.
The only time the infection rate declines, is when everyone wears masks. No other measures have been shown to be effective in public places.
Stay separated by at least 6 feet (preferably more) from other persons in public places.

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Item Two
The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has revoked its authorization of the use of hydroxychloroquine as an emergency treatment for COVID-19, the illness caused by the novel coronavirus.

As CNBC reported, back in March, the agency enacted an Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) that allowed doctors to prescribe the anti-malaria drugs hydroxychloroquine and its cousin, chloroquine, off-label, to treat COVID-19. An EUA allows doctors to prescribe a drug that is not fully approved to prevent or treat an illness that has no approved treatment.
However, after 3 months of having been approved for off-label use, the FDA has withdrawn that approval, citing its lack of efficacy.
 
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my wife and I have been having a discussion about education and what covid are doing. The school that our kids go to will be requiring face masks. So we have decided to pull the kids from public education and do homeschooling.

What are your thoughts on this?

Our kids are 7 and 9, not sure how they think they are going to keep masks on the kids. Also the part that I don't fell its a good idia because of possibility of infection, rashes and what not. I havnt and won't wear a mask so I don't expect my kids or wife to eather. Our state has a requirement that all employees wear a mask and if my boss asks me to ill tell him to lay me off.

Sorry for the rant just curious of your thought on homeschooling

Loooooong post ahead!

We‘ve homeschooled three of our four children. The youngest one is severely autistic and we tried public schooling him just to see if the programs available to us here would be of benefit. The real benefit wasn’t the programs or school system as much as it was the teachers he had. We had good experiences with them. Also, unlike many autistic children, my child is rather passive and mild-mannered, so there were no behavioral issues with him.

But, on to our experiences with the other three:

Of my three oldest kids, one has his bachelor‘s degree in mechanical engineering and one has his masters in mechanical engineering. They are both gainfully employed. My daughter currently is in college majoring in chemistry. All three of them were entirely homeschooled.

The most critically essential factors in successful homeschooling are the parents. It takes a lot of personal commitment, discipline, and organization to be successful. While I am definitely in favor of homeschooling, I am not anti-public school, either. I do believe we should have public education. I will also be the first to say that there are some people who should not be homeschooling. But, I believe the parents bear the primary role and responsibility when it comes to educating their children, and they have three avenues by which to accomplish that task: public education, private education, or home education. You have to honestly assess the best route.

One big challenge is for your child to see you and your wife in the new role of “teacher.” Initially, your children may see this new home school thing as a perpetual vacation! There will be a transition. Some kids make the transition quickly. Some can take a long time. Even for those of us who have children who have always been homeschooled, there is often a point where the child will challenge this role. Do not be mean, harsh, or threatening. But, you have to be firm and consistent.

As for the things to keep in mind, the first thing you need to do is to investigate the rules your state and county have concerning homeschooling. The rules vary quite a bit. Most jurisdictions will require some sort of oversight. The oversight may be through your county board of education, or it may be via an umbrella group. Many states don’t have umbrella groups. Of those that do, an umbrella group will usually be associated with a church. Even if you get oversight through an umbrella group, that group is usually required to identify those people under its oversight each year to the local board of education. Like I said, the rules vary, so check your local guidelines. Some states are rather loose, others are very strict. A lot will actually come down to the attitude of the person at the county level who is responsible for monitoring home schooling and oversight.

Many jurisdictions allow homeschool cooperative groups (co-ops) to provide some portion of the homeschool learning experience. Co-ops are often part of an umbrella group and they consist of homeschooling parents who may have knowledge or education in a certain area and who teach a group of homeschooled kids. I‘ve seen co-op classes that range from music to drama to chemistry to physical education to algebra. At times, I’ve even guest-taught a class on basic electronics. I brought in my Les Paul and amplifier to illustrate a practical application of electromagnetic induction! The setting of a co-op is very much like a traditional school. These can be very useful. However, many jurisdictions limit how much of your homeschooling can be done via a co-op and will mandate that some percentage of homeschooling be done by the parents, themselves. This is to keep co-ops from morphing into a de facto unlicensed private school. Nevertheless, co-ops are very popular with many homeschoolers. They broaden the depth of instruction parents have available to them, the kids spend the day with other kids, and the parents get a chance to be together. The homeschooling group we were part of even conducted graduation ceremonies for the graduating seniors, had a yearbook, and even had a prom (with student committees for each of them). Again, most co-ops will be operated within the context of a church.

As for actual instruction, the key is to find a good curriculum. A good curriculum bridges the gap between what a parent may know and what the child needs to learn. Most home school parents I know are not coming up with their own teaching material. They are purchasing a prepared, grade-appropriate curriculum that is written and designed to match, or exceed, the same pace and level of education which students in a traditional school would be learning.

This brings up another thing: money. Homeschooling will cost money, especially in the middle school and high school grades. The curriculum, books, supplies, and any fees you may pay to a homeschool group come entirely out of your own pocket (as I think it should be). This is not to scare you off, but it is one of those things a lot of new homeschool parents don’t anticipate.

I‘ve alluded to this a couple times - I don’t want to dwell on it, but I do want to set expectations. Traditionally speaking, homeschooling has been very much associated with churches or people of faith. While this is changing, this still represents the preponderance of homeschooling groups and curriculum. That describes me, so it doesn’t bother me. However, if an association with a church or religious content is not your preference, finding a group or curriculum may be more of a challenge, but it can be done. I don’t say this to start a discussion and I won’t say anything more on it; I’m just trying to give you a sense of what to expect as you begin your research.

Good luck!
 
Hang on -- I need to take a break and rest my eyes --- GEEZE SMITTY ----- I have headache.......have I been soldering?!?!?! ugh

-- I think there is some good stuff in there ---they're....their? HELL I WENT TO PUBLIC SCHOOL -- maybe had I been HOME schooled Id know that one ...?? (probably not)
Yes it cost money (and you dont get ANY of your tax money back that pays for the publix schools --(I axed trust me ;) )

My ex-Wife (college edumacated--stay at home mom at the time) and me ( paying da bills) home schooled our Son for 5 years ---he is neither a derelict or homeless ---and did wrangle a Diploma from the Monroe County School Board..... and has even gone on to college course and higher learning ---now he sells real estate in the FABULOUS FLORIDA KEYS -- and made more on 1 sale last month than I will all year...........so................
-- was that aided or hindered by homes schooling?? who knows ---
Its not all doom and gloom on the home schooling thing -- of course EVERYONE is different---your results may very -- the trousers may ride up with wear--- no salesman will call-- not valid in Id.-Oh.Ky.-Ca.

o.k. I need to go hit things with a hammer and drink beer smitty made me thinks two much
 
Loooooong post ahead!

We‘ve homeschooled three of our four children. The youngest one is severely autistic and we tried public schooling him just to see if the programs available to us here would be of benefit. The real benefit wasn’t the programs or school system as much as it was the teachers he had. We had good experiences with them. Also, unlike many autistic children, my child is rather passive and mild-mannered, so there were no behavioral issues with him.

But, on to our experiences with the other three:

Of my three oldest kids, one has his bachelor‘s degree in mechanical engineering and one has his masters in mechanical engineering. They are both gainfully employed. My daughter currently is in college majoring in chemistry. All three of them were entirely homeschooled.

The most critically essential factors in successful homeschooling are the parents. It takes a lot of personal commitment, discipline, and organization to be successful. While I am definitely in favor of homeschooling, I am not anti-public school, either. I do believe we should have public education. I will also be the first to say that there are some people who should not be homeschooling. But, I believe the parents bear the primary role and responsibility when it comes to educating their children, and they have three avenues by which to accomplish that task: public education, private education, or home education. You have to honestly assess the best route.

One big challenge is for your child to see you and your wife in the new role of “teacher.” Initially, your children may see this new home school thing as a perpetual vacation! There will be a transition. Some kids make the transition quickly. Some can take a long time. Even for those of us who have children who have always been homeschooled, there is often a point where the child will challenge this role. Do not be mean, harsh, or threatening. But, you have to be firm and consistent.

As for the things to keep in mind, the first thing you need to do is to investigate the rules your state and county have concerning homeschooling. The rules vary quite a bit. Most jurisdictions will require some sort of oversight. The oversight may be through your county board of education, or it may be via an umbrella group. Many states don’t have umbrella groups. Of those that do, an umbrella group will usually be associated with a church. Even if you get oversight through an umbrella group, that group is usually required to identify those people under its oversight each year to the local board of education. Like I said, the rules vary, so check your local guidelines. Some states are rather loose, others are very strict. A lot will actually come down to the attitude of the person at the county level who is responsible for monitoring home schooling and oversight.

Many jurisdictions allow homeschool cooperative groups (co-ops) to provide some portion of the homeschool learning experience. Co-ops are often part of an umbrella group and they consist of homeschooling parents who may have knowledge or education in a certain area and who teach a group of homeschooled kids. I‘ve seen co-op classes that range from music to drama to chemistry to physical education to algebra. At times, I’ve even guest-taught a class on basic electronics. I brought in my Les Paul and amplifier to illustrate a practical application of electromagnetic induction! The setting of a co-op is very much like a traditional school. These can be very useful. However, many jurisdictions limit how much of your homeschooling can be done via a co-op and will mandate that some percentage of homeschooling be done by the parents, themselves. This is to keep co-ops from morphing into a de facto unlicensed private school. Nevertheless, co-ops are very popular with many homeschoolers. They broaden the depth of instruction parents have available to them, the kids spend the day with other kids, and the parents get a chance to be together. The homeschooling group we were part of even conducted graduation ceremonies for the graduating seniors, had a yearbook, and even had a prom (with student committees for each of them). Again, most co-ops will be operated within the context of a church.

As for actual instruction, the key is to find a good curriculum. A good curriculum bridges the gap between what a parent may know and what the child needs to learn. Most home school parents I know are not coming up with their own teaching material. They are purchasing a prepared, grade-appropriate curriculum that is written and designed to match, or exceed, the same pace and level of education which students in a traditional school would be learning.

This brings up another thing: money. Homeschooling will cost money, especially in the middle school and high school grades. The curriculum, books, supplies, and any fees you may pay to a homeschool group come entirely out of your own pocket (as I think it should be). This is not to scare you off, but it is one of those things a lot of new homeschool parents don’t anticipate.

I‘ve alluded to this a couple times - I don’t want to dwell on it, but I do want to set expectations. Traditionally speaking, homeschooling has been very much associated with churches or people of faith. While this is changing, this still represents the preponderance of homeschooling groups and curriculum. That describes me, so it doesn’t bother me. However, if an association with a church or religious content is not your preference, finding a group or curriculum may be more of a challenge, but it can be done. I don’t say this to start a discussion and I won’t say anything more on it; I’m just trying to give you a sense of what to expect as you begin your research.

Good luck!
Thank you for the insight on the homeschooling subject. I knew that I'd be having to pay out of pocket. I didn't know that you could go through the churches and that I would prefer for an oversight.
I do plan to put the kids back to public school at some point, thinking at this time possibly high school.
There is a large portion of this community that are looking at the same thing I am and for the same reasons. My wife is a stay at home mom that when given a curriculum/scedual is good for standing behind it.
 
Wife just sent this text to me.
Looks like a good portion of the public schools won't need rebuilt or remodeled.

Just got off phone with online school and she said they had to hire an additional 200 people to help with enrolling kids
 
Thank you for the insight on the homeschooling subject. I knew that I'd be having to pay out of pocket. I didn't know that you could go through the churches and that I would prefer for an oversight.
I do plan to put the kids back to public school at some point, thinking at this time possibly high school.
There is a large portion of this community that are looking at the same thing I am and for the same reasons. My wife is a stay at home mom that when given a curriculum/scedual is good for standing behind it.

Again, it all comes down to the rules where you live.

The rules do differ quite a bit,
 
yes-- we relocated from ala-FREAKIN -bama to KEY WEST during my Sons home schooling --- many "alterations" and differences etc ----funny thing though we "made" it work and well now here we are............20 years later...........and the beat goes on....................yeah the beat goes on..............
 
Since COVID is 100 times more contagious that influenza...
I can predict the outcome of re-opening schools. Any intelligent person already knows.
Obviously, the virus is not going to behave any different in a school than it did anywhere else in the world.
The more denial, the worse the problems become.

What I really need to do - is question the decision making process.
We all want to go back to work. But we're not all stupid / oblivious to what is happening right in front of our own 2 eyes.
At least I hope not.

Locally: there has been a 2000% increase since June 1.
 
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Just got done with a 2 hour staff Zoom mtg. I can tell ya in my neck of the woods 80% of parents serveyed want School to open. Im rural lots of both parents working families.
 
I was not going to wear a mask to get my haircut---(buzz cut my self with DOG CLIPPERS) I used to wear it that way for years ....cheap-- cooler here in the swamp-- and FREE-- thanks -- Ill keep doing it--Hair is over rated and its FALLING OUT any way so this way when I am bald no one will REALLY notice

Adrian, it is funny you mentioned the clippers. I have been clipping my own for years now or my buddies and I do each other's if we are visiting and have 15 minutes for a mutual buzz to each other.

My usual cutters are weak and pull anymore, so I invested in some of the good stuff. It should last me a lifetime of cutting now.
Got my eye on a good cordless unit now too.

Here is a pro grade Andis trimmer I got for $25 off ebay, and a Pro Oster 76 with detachable length blades I picked up for about what 3-4 blades alone cost for it.

Andis Stylite 2.JPGOster 76.jpg
 
Now for the LRT and Home schooling. Man, My school experience was a challenge. I was not the best at paying attention. I loved having friends at school, and my Elementary school was the best school ever for a kid to enjoy learning, sports, gym etc. BUT my first school years were marred by marital issues and fighting and much sadness at my home. HOME schooling if it existed would have majorly sucked except having time with mom. Dad was the jerk here.

Flash forward to Middle school. New school new kids, and new location about 20 minutes north. Needless to say, things improved some, despite me still carrying some lingering growth bumps in the road due to the breakup of parents and getting a new dad. Despite some of the least of objections to my next 12 -15 years with my stepdad till I became a college grad, employed adult and mobile maniac, I had truly gotten life's greatest lesson in or out of school. That was the lesson of a stable mom and dad who did not quarrel but displayed love and teamwork with themselves and with my sis and me.

SO, in the end, no matter if they are home schooled of in public/private school. Patience, love and being there as mom, dad, siblings, grandparents, FAMILY, are some of the most important lessons they will ever learn.
 
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Since COVID is 100 times more contagious that influenza...
I can predict the outcome of re-opening schools. Any intelligent person already knows.
Obviously, the virus is not going to behave any different in a school than it did anywhere else in the world.
The more denial, the worse the problems become.

What I really need to do - is question the decision making process.
We all want to go back to work. But we're not all stupid / oblivious to what is happening right in front of our own 2 eyes.
At least I hope not.

Locally: there has been a 2000% increase since June 1.
My wife does Special Ed in a K-2 building. That age does not know personal space or personal hygiene. Keeping a mask on.... not gonna happen. Little snot boxes they are. She is not looking forward to going back into the class room under the current circumstances. We are both in the age bracket that the doctors say are at high risk if we catch this virus. And this coming from a teacher that loves her kids and mostly the job.

On a personal note. I work in a marina along Lake Michigan. 40ish employees. One just tested positive. Doesn't know how or where got exposed. Probably a customer. And yes, over the past two weeks I've been in fairly close contact as have about 6-10 other co-workers. Got tested this morning. Expect it to come back negative, because... my owners have done everything possible to make it safe. Plexiglass at the ships store cash register. Directive to maintain the 6ft thing. Wash hands....use sanitizer. Most important. MASKS! And due to all that, especially the masks, I'm pretty confident we are only going have the one positive test.

Now that's just one person out of 40 to test positive. We all have our personal work space that allows us to maintain the 6ft as best as possible. Its a retail business, so sometimes one ends up having to invade some one else's space. Way easier to stay safe. Now lets look at a school with 500 kids and a few dozen teachers and staff. I think my eldest said it best. Also a teacher.


So we're clear:
- Beaches = not safe.
- Restaurants = not safe.
- Bars = not safe.
- Churches = not safe.
- Sports = not safe.
- Schools = safe?

Also...even though teachers are about to get hit with medical bills they can't afford, we're NOT going to give them more money, but we are going to CUT budgets!!
 
- kids get other things from school, most notably, socialization skills. If you are home schooling, you need to make these aspects up somewhere else.

You are good people. I am sure that whatever choice you make, there will be plenty of love and attention in the mix, which is the most important!
Thanks

The socialization is my biggest concern but in this smaller community everyone knows each other. The kids would still get to have play days with there friends even if its weekends.


Sign em up here, we will socialize em and teach em all they need to know. 4/4. 3/4 7/8
Godins rule, all others drool,
Disinfect anything Adrian rubs junk on,
It aint right till Hack puts a 3rd pup in,
Gball will take all Mesa donations
etc etc etc.
 
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