Clapton Beano album documentary
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SG John
Ambassador of Cool Guitars and Amps.
The record, or the video? That's one of the all time greatest records.
IMHO, that's when Clapton was referred to as god, and other than some of his stuff with Cream never played like that ever since.
BFT Gibson
Ambassador of Originality
Saw that and enjoyed it, enjoy the studio shots so much
The record, or the video? That's one of the all time greatest records.
IMHO, that's when Clapton was referred to as god, and other than some of his stuff with Cream never played like that ever since.
He should of stayed Gibson...into Marshall's..imho
gball
Ambassador of Boogie
The record, or the video? That's one of the all time greatest records.
IMHO, that's when Clapton was referred to as god, and other than some of his stuff with Cream never played like that ever since.
Agree 100%. And I can't stand how he sounds playing a Stratocaster...just not a good match for his technique, at least not to my ears.
Vox AC30
Well-Known Member
I found my way to that album in early 67' and I still like to listen to it. But on the next one with Peter Green was just as good. Then Hendrix showed up, then Alvin Lee, then, then, then, I could keep going on. He really lifted riffs from the 3 Kings, Buddy Guy and Tbone Walker for that album. The pedigree of the Analog Rupert Neve mixing console is unrivaled, preamps, tube compressors and Tape recorders all added to that sound along with the mike's used! All highly priced and desired now days. The tape heads were easily pushed to a soft, sweet distortion. Add some PAF's to taste and with the stars perfectly aligned and were almost there. The last thing is quite arguable but in the end I'll show you who answered a lot of questions for me! He He!. First I have 6 of those old alnico celestion speakers, but in a Selmer Zodiac, Selmer Thunderbird and a 60' Vox AC 30/4 amps. Those speakers sound like that album when their pushed, basically there pretty much an early Vox Blue T530 or T1088 silver speaker.
I've had 6 early bluesbreaker "pass " through the house. Most did not sound like that album but they went for such silly $ I just moved them on while anyone who tried them revered them because of that album. Here's the catch, it's what I believe to be true and please rather not argue about it.
It might seem a little technical but it's not beyond anyone's understanding here ….. you boys are very clever
The Deluxe OT in early Marshalls had KT66 or 6L6 valves connected to pins 1 and 9, the HT supply to pin 5. The secondary was wired for 15 ohms. There was no output selector as the OT adjustment was hardwired. This gave a primary load of 6.6 K ohms. Actually that's too high for 45 watts, it's the load normally used for 20 watts with EL34's or 30 watts with 6L6's in class A (cathode bias). The JTM45 was a fixed bias amp but used a high bias current adjustment (40 mA per valve) that took it towards class A. By 1966 Bluesbreaker's had begun to be fitted with the custom-wound Drake OT which had more conventional 3.5 K ohm loading, allowing a cooler running class AB bias setting of 30 mA's.
Where it gets interesting is that the same connection was used in the Deluxe OT fitted to the earliest Marshall Bluesbreakers, but the speakers were wired for 8 ohms not 16. By wiring the OT for 16 (15) ohms but operating it into 8 ohms, the primary load was approximately halved to 3.3 K ohms. That allowed the amp to develop higher power, around 45 watts, with lower bias current. The penalty was lower primary inductance (less bass) and more distortion. I think that was the sound that Clapton got on the Beano album that made the amp famous. Also his amp was probably fitted with GEC KT66 valves, which have that particular individual sound under these conditions.
All that said I did have two major scotch sittings with the person below who answered many and all questions, and he was just like we here at a MOTM, just one of the boys! Oh god, he knew everything . Although I was involved with a company which gave me access to a lot of people. And most are/were just like us here. Horndogs for guitars , amps and tone to the bone connected to our central nervous systems. Here's the dude and his wife ...…
He HE ….. his cheeks were red and I don't know why mine weren't!
I've had 6 early bluesbreaker "pass " through the house. Most did not sound like that album but they went for such silly $ I just moved them on while anyone who tried them revered them because of that album. Here's the catch, it's what I believe to be true and please rather not argue about it.
It might seem a little technical but it's not beyond anyone's understanding here ….. you boys are very clever
The Deluxe OT in early Marshalls had KT66 or 6L6 valves connected to pins 1 and 9, the HT supply to pin 5. The secondary was wired for 15 ohms. There was no output selector as the OT adjustment was hardwired. This gave a primary load of 6.6 K ohms. Actually that's too high for 45 watts, it's the load normally used for 20 watts with EL34's or 30 watts with 6L6's in class A (cathode bias). The JTM45 was a fixed bias amp but used a high bias current adjustment (40 mA per valve) that took it towards class A. By 1966 Bluesbreaker's had begun to be fitted with the custom-wound Drake OT which had more conventional 3.5 K ohm loading, allowing a cooler running class AB bias setting of 30 mA's.
Where it gets interesting is that the same connection was used in the Deluxe OT fitted to the earliest Marshall Bluesbreakers, but the speakers were wired for 8 ohms not 16. By wiring the OT for 16 (15) ohms but operating it into 8 ohms, the primary load was approximately halved to 3.3 K ohms. That allowed the amp to develop higher power, around 45 watts, with lower bias current. The penalty was lower primary inductance (less bass) and more distortion. I think that was the sound that Clapton got on the Beano album that made the amp famous. Also his amp was probably fitted with GEC KT66 valves, which have that particular individual sound under these conditions.
All that said I did have two major scotch sittings with the person below who answered many and all questions, and he was just like we here at a MOTM, just one of the boys! Oh god, he knew everything . Although I was involved with a company which gave me access to a lot of people. And most are/were just like us here. Horndogs for guitars , amps and tone to the bone connected to our central nervous systems. Here's the dude and his wife ...…
He HE ….. his cheeks were red and I don't know why mine weren't!
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jtcnj
Ambassador of the Crossroad
The record. I knew OF it, but finally got to studying it.
The record, or the video? That's one of the all time greatest records.
IMHO, that's when Clapton was referred to as god, and other than some of his stuff with Cream never played like that ever since.
Vox AC30
Well-Known Member
It keeps growing on you if your so inclined to have that happen. When things got out of hand with this Clapton is god thingy, and I thought so too, he realized, in retrospect, that when your on top there's always someone else waiting for his turn. When Hendrix first jammed with EC , his published comment was I was afraid some day this was going to happen, It's in EC's memoirs. Me, I'm still learning from both but I'm a guitar/amp nerd who gets worse each passing day. 
