Poll: SG Junior or SG Special or SG Standard?

Junior, Special or Standard

  • Junior - pure and simple rock machine.

    Votes: 3 10.3%

  • Special - the most beautiful and iconic by far.

    Votes: 5 17.2%

  • Standard - there simply is no other choice.

    Votes: 9 31.0%

  • I'm really struggling to choose a favourite.

    Votes: 9 31.0%

  • None, they are all crap!

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Custom - sometimes overlooked, but it's King of the SGs.

    Votes: 3 10.3%
  • Total voters
    29
Mr Grumpy said:
Yeah, is it fair to say that the humbucker SGs are the most versatile, and the Standard just has all the bits that an SG is famous for (the binding, inlays, etc). Although, I was shocked by the variety of sounds a Junior possesses. As a crappy player, the simplicity of a Junior is a really great learning tool.



Good point, my post was a tad tongue in cheek, but at the same time you have a lot of experience/knowledge of SGs so your comments do carry weight.



I must admit, just a simple 490 or 57 in the neck of an SG is glorious.
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For ten years, my '68 Junior was my main player, along with a Les Paul Standard. It was the only guitar I had for about three years. It is a great guitar, and I will never not praise a Junior. The neck joint is the best of any SG model, and they ring like a bell. For the type of music I've played over the years, and the types of basses I've counter played with (mostly Rickenbackers), an SG Standard has always sounded best. So has my Les Paul Standard and Flying V. I like low powered PAF style humbuckers for their clarity. Mine all run in the 7.3 to 7.9 ohm range. It just does what I need it to do. Granted, some of my other guitars get me there too. It's all a matter of: "Do I want to wear slippers, or hiking boots?"
 
Sp8ctre said:
Truth! It's Scary!

More than 100 Guitars have passed through my hands since 2014. At one time I had more than 30 on hand!

Not mention Amps, effects, recording gear, etc...
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Wow, I think that I have about twenty seven guitars, steel guitars, and basses total. The only reason it's that high is I got the SG from Java and then saw the Burgundy Metallic SG Special that I absolutely had to have. Even though I've tried at times, I've never been able to crack anywhere near thirty. Most of my guitars were work horses, so I had to make the decision "do I really need this guitar" before buying it. That's probably why I don't move them in and out., and have some sort of an attachment to them.
 
Mr Grumpy said:
This might be embarrassing to admit, but that's a really American cultural comment, and I don't get it. I presume it links to the famous character/book, but not sure of the meaning - please explain, I need me some learning today. :)
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"I'm the hombre that can do the job!"

Mr Grumpy said:
Maybe finding the right P90 is difficult?
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Kinman "Zero Hum" P90's. Catch-22: The Kinmans might be too deep for an SG's neck pickup cavity. Borderline room, for the bridge pickup cavity. My PGK SG Junior has got a Kinman in there. Sweet magic!
 
67plexi said:
Flash back the LPJ was the best thing since sliced bread well I got one never played it.
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Strange isn't it, we can buy a guitar that we think'll be perfect and just not bond with it... It does seem a far better approach just to play lots of guitars in shops and wait until we find one that just works for us.

SG John said:
I will never not praise a Junior. The neck joint is the best of any SG model, and they ring like a bell.
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That's an interesting point about the neck. I felt that the Junior I had was exceptional in the neck angle and even though the neck was really thin the guitar held tune better than any other SG I've owned (although my current SG Special holds tune really well). What's different about the neck joint?

syscokid said:
Kinman "Zero Hum" P90's. Catch-22: The Kinmans might be too deep for an SG's neck pickup cavity. Borderline room, for the bridge pickup cavity. My PGK SG Junior has got a Kinman in there. Sweet magic!
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Interesting. Do you find that P90s are more difficult to find the right sound than a humbucker?
 
Mr Grumpy said:
That's an interesting point about the neck. I felt that the Junior I had was exceptional in the neck angle and even though the neck was really thin the guitar held tune better than any other SG I've owned (although my current SG Special holds tune really well). What's different about the neck joint?
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It’s because the neck joint has not been compromised by routing it for the neck pickup.
I can post some photos later in the day, if you’d like.
 
^ that makes perfect sense, thank you. It'd be interesting to see photos if you have time - to see how different the neck joint is constructed. I know a Junior sounds very different from a Special, but hadn't thought of this reason as part of it - sounds perfectly simple now that you explain it...

How are you finding your Special?
 
SG John said:
Wow, I think that I have about twenty seven guitars, steel guitars, and basses total. The only reason it's that high is I got the SG from Java and then saw the Burgundy Metallic SG Special that I absolutely had to have. Even though I've tried at times, I've never been able to crack anywhere near thirty. Most of my guitars were work horses, so I had to make the decision "do I really need this guitar" before buying it. That's probably why I don't move them in and out., and have some sort of an attachment to them.
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I had this habit of wanting everything everyone talked about. I went through just about every style of guitar trying to find one that suited me. I also
tried to spend my way to great sound by buying a few Custom made guitars. Guess what...it doesn't work that way!

I soon realized I was spending too much time flipping guitars and amps and not enough time playing! I did nothing but sell things off for
quite a while and have just bought a few the last couple months.

My count now is around 12 I believe. I know I have 5 Les Paul type, 6 Strats, a Tele and a Taylor T5z. I think that's all??? I'm selling at least 4 of
the Strats, the Tele and 3 of the Les Pauls.

I want to get down to around 5 guitars. I've already reduced my amp count to 2 Tube combo's, a tube head and on solid state Combo.
Then I have my Kemper with 2 power amps and 4 speaker cabs.

The only guitar currently on my radar is an SG...which I have none right now...
 
Sp8ctre said:
The only guitar currently on my radar is an SG...which I have none right now...
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:eek:

Yargnad said:
asically it means I'm your guy or I can handle that or I got that covered. It's a southern quip. I don't think it has anything to do with the books by Twain, but I could be wrong.
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Thank you, I am learning...

Yargnad said:
I don't subscribe to this theory when pickups are adjusted to the proper height, only when its too close. There have been studies done on this which show magnetic pull on the strings is exponentially lower for each millimeter further away to the point where it has nearly no affect on the string freely vibrating, but is still able to function as intended.
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I see your point, but I still tend to think that there is a sound difference. Although, SG John's explanation of the neck join is really interesting and could well have a bigger affect than I previously realised.

I wonder if, when I'm changing over my pickups on the Special to the SDs, if I should try with just the bridge in place before putting the neck puppy in - see if I can hear any difference at all?
 
ChasFred said:
To me , and this is just MY 2cents, if you go for a guitar with P90's then it should be a Jr. You really only need 1 P90.
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That is a good point. Currently, I use the middle position with mostly the neck rolled in with a little tone while the bridge volume is up less, but its tone is up 2/3rds of the way. I keep saying it - my Junior sounded better. But, the Special is so sexy (like the Classic).

chilipeppermaniac said:
SG Classic
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Now that is a fantastic guitar! I tried really hard to find an SG Classic before I got the Special; hard to find in this part of the world; all the Japanese ones on ebay were scalpers - the guitar(s?) wasn't available...
 
Mr Grumpy said:
That is a good point. Currently, I use the middle position with mostly the neck rolled in with a little tone while the bridge volume is up less, but its tone is up 2/3rds of the way. I keep saying it - my Junior sounded better. But, the Special is so sexy (like the Classic).



Now that is a fantastic guitar! I tried really hard to find an SG Classic before I got the Special; hard to find in this part of the world; all the Japanese ones on ebay were scalpers - the guitar(s?) wasn't available...
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I hear that, Grumpy Betty. I almost had to pass on my Classic to brother DonO when I accidentally got behind on my property tax when the bill got lost in some old mail. Thankfully I managed to raise the cash quickly enough on some jobs and cash advances on future work.
 
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