NGD, another SG Special

SG John

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I first saw one of these when I was with Javamagic on Denmark Street in London. In the sunlight, it was gorgeous, and the fact that it really is an SG Special with bound fingerboard, dot inlays, two P90s, and a stop tailpiece grabbed both our approval. Even my friend Brendan (owner of one of the HesSG guitars) approved. I have lusted for one since, even though I need another SG like I need a hole in my head.

Anyway, fast forward to my X-mess break, I ordered one. They sent me a buggered one, so they agreed to send a new one pronto.

I picked it up at my mum‘s house yesterday. When I was tuning it up, I broke the the B string. So I oiled the fingerboard while putting on a new set of Nickel Rock and Roll Slinkies. Then I played it a bit unplugged. As I was changing the strings, I picked off a piece of chrome flashing from the cast pit metal tailpiece. Then, I had the same trouble as Grumpy with the set screws binding while intimating. It‘s almost there, but I‘ll need to pull it apart to run a tap through the holes to see if it improves. At the very least, I‘ll need to get a set of Tone Pros locking studs to clamp onto the tailpiece. It‘s at quite an angle because it is so far out.

Plugged in.... wow, these are supposed to be P-90s? They are very hot, and the bridge pickup is a bit brash. I could smooth out the amps eq a bit, but then stomp on some distortion, and the brashness is back. To answer Grumpy‘s question on the other thread, I love the feel of the neck. It has a wide nut, and is a bit fuller/rounder than my ‘62 or ‘61 Reissue. The fretwork is nicely done. More of a medium fret that has also actually been crowned properly, unlike the square frets on my ‘61 reissue.

Future plans will be a set of Tone Pros studs and maybe a MojoAxe tailpiece. Need to look at the controls, and maybe try a cap swap. Also need to spend a bunch of time adjusting the pickups and pole screws. Otherwise, she’s a keeper.

Obligatory sitting in front of the Fawn JMP shot.

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Now, I have to get used to saying “Vintage Sparkling Burgundy”, unlike my “Burgundy Mist” Strat.

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I have the locking studs on my ‘68 Junior, and they work perfectly. Here you see why I need them.

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Future plans will be a set of Tone Pros studs
Tone Pros is good stuff and reasonably affordable. But have you checked out the Schroeder Top-Adjustable Locking Studs? The Schroeders are about $10 more than the Tone Pros, but IMO it's a better and nicer mouse trap. I have them on a couple guitars. I also have a couple of their stoptail bridges which are excellent, too.
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Tone Pros is good stuff and reasonably affordable. But have you checked out the Schroeder Top-Adjustable Locking Studs? The Schroeders are about $10 more than the Tone Pros, but IMO it's a better and nicer mouse trap. I have them on a couple guitars. I also a couple of their stoptail bridges which are excellent, too.
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Those look nice, and much more user friendly than having to use the tiny stamped steel wrench they give you with the Tone Pros studs.
 
Lovely guitar, SG John, and the colour is really nice. Your Marshalls are obviously fantastic too...

I need to do something similar to your/Sysco's suggestion as I'm not happy about the bridge - I did send an email off to Gibson regarding the bridge problem and the circuit board, but just got a curt/rude reply that seemed to have been written by a five year old. Also tried Thomann (3 times) but no luck yet...

If you bought an Original Collection rather than a pre-Original Collection then you should get the hand-wired with orange drops:

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(from their current website)

Also, from reading other threads it seems that the neck carve has changed - more rounded with the Original Collection.

Having said that, Gibson seem rather coy about detailing their guitars as a 2019 or an Original Collection (I suspect in part because lots of "Original Collection" guitars went out with the old stock of circuit boards even though they were advertised as hand-wired).

Glad you like yours and are gonna keep it. :dood:

The sparkling burgundy is a real grower, at first I wasn't sure, but I just like it more and more every time I see it.
 

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I first saw one of these when I was with Javamagic on Denmark Street in London. In the sunlight, it was gorgeous, and the fact that it really is an SG Special with bound fingerboard, dot inlays, two P90s, and a stop tailpiece grabbed both our approval. Even my friend Brendan (owner of one of the HesSG guitars) approved. I have lusted for one since, even though I need another SG like I need a hole in my head.

Anyway, fast forward to my X-mess break, I ordered one. They sent me a buggered one, so they agreed to send a new one pronto.

I picked it up at my mum‘s house yesterday. When I was tuning it up, I broke the the B string. So I oiled the fingerboard while putting on a new set of Nickel Rock and Roll Slinkies. Then I played it a bit unplugged. As I was changing the strings, I picked off a piece of chrome flashing from the cast pit metal tailpiece. Then, I had the same trouble as Grumpy with the set screws binding while intimating. It‘s almost there, but I‘ll need to pull it apart to run a tap through the holes to see if it improves. At the very least, I‘ll need to get a set of Tone Pros locking studs to clamp onto the tailpiece. It‘s at quite an angle because it is so far out.

Plugged in.... wow, these are supposed to be P-90s? They are very hot, and the bridge pickup is a bit brash. I could smooth out the amps eq a bit, but then stomp on some distortion, and the brashness is back. To answer Grumpy‘s question on the other thread, I love the feel of the neck. It has a wide nut, and is a bit fuller/rounder than my ‘62 or ‘61 Reissue. The fretwork is nicely done. More of a medium fret that has also actually been crowned properly, unlike the square frets on my ‘61 reissue.

Future plans will be a set of Tone Pros studs and maybe a MojoAxe tailpiece. Need to look at the controls, and maybe try a cap swap. Also need to spend a bunch of time adjusting the pickups and pole screws. Otherwise, she’s a keeper.

Obligatory sitting in front of the Fawn JMP shot.

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Now, I have to get used to saying “Vintage Sparkling Burgundy”, unlike my “Burgundy Mist” Strat.

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I have the locking studs on my ‘68 Junior, and they work perfectly. Here you see why I need them.

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That red looks amazing with the light reflecting off of it. Sweet guitar John :2Thumbs:
 
Congrats, beautiful guitar!
Hope it comes together for you.

I cant wrap my head around paying well over $1000 for Gibson with those bridge or post or any other issues.
I upgrade cheap guitars to make them decent players; to give them better components or whatever.
I expect a "good" / name brand guitar to be right, not "need" anything.
Personal tastes / pickups or whatever - subjective and different.

If I buy a new Gibson it better be right, no, perfect out of the box or its either going back or I'm campaigning hard for a B-stock deep discount.
This actually makes me angry.

It reminds me of someone who starts and builds a family business with high quality and integrity - to a point where the reputation of the brand name is respected.
Then the kids take over, don't appreciate, understand, or care, and it all turns to poo.
 
More like the workers need a spanking hahahaha. Nothing wrong with a 60 year old design.Hell Fenders still doin the same 60 year old design.Love that color SG John.If the paint,neck angle , binding ect is in great shape and to your liking id just throw that Gibby tail piece in the trash and get that Shreoder one like Sysco.The tone pros are good to but i dont like there locking studs.i tossed those. dont need um if you got a good fit there useless.
 
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