gball-- I love ya man -- I do--- (make a sammich this goes long)
But your gonna be very very unhappy when Gibbo releases them new CHINA MADE Gibsons...........................its coming (the new El Presidente is KNOWN for that little twist to "save" companies--- -- look at his track record-- )
We did the research to find out where Levi's is actually made. Are they made in the USA? Here is our verdict.
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His days at keen saw "marketing of "Built in USA" --- but they are from overseas sourced materials--
We tour KEEN to see footwear built in a Portland, Ore., factory.
gearjunkie.com
before that Taylor Made golf stuff (chinese made) and M&M Mars in Europe ----- Im telling ya Gman--- overseas made Lesters with GIBBO on the headstock is coming -------
Just like them Indian made HArleys--oh sure Harley is ONLY selling those in EUROPE and Asia-- wink wink--- Ill BET--

(B.S.-- $$$ rules)
And I have personally met people the BIG G has screwed over and left hanging and laid off--and I can tell you they have VERY different views of Gibson-- -
Companies are for profit-- period--
Im not defending Hartley PEavey -- the man was and is an innovator (but is probably a real jerk in person) -- he made -- or paid employees to make (Chip Todd designed the "T" series guitars --hence the "T"-- ) -- some REALLY GOOD crap--
I like the fact I can get GOOD used USA made gear for less than most mediocre level foreign made stuff--tickles me pink-- sad others cant embrace that -- but YEAH more FOR ME!
Hartley was the one that INNOVATED CNC machines for guitars---now EVERYONE makes them that way -- but oh he laid some folks off.... get a rope string him up!~!!
Ive laid folks off-- Ive fired folks -- Ive been laid off and Ive been fired--where is your point ? thats life--

happens --factories close-- revenue dries up our directions and goals CHANGE---GIBSON LAID OFF PEOPLE AND CLOSED A FACTORY LAST YEAR---GIBSONS REVENUES ARE DOWN--- they are GRASPING at straws to survive (Ill bet them China Epi sales is covering the nut

) are you pooping on them for layoffs WHILE OPENLY BRANDISHING THE MADE IN USA mantra? Are they draping themselves in the flag? (yes) and TRADITION (yes heavily--PLAY AUTHENTIC- "some of these models and design ideas go back 150 years"--- they claim.But the ones from 1872--- till Gibson BOUGHT Epiphone were EPIPHONE traditons-- oh they bought some "history" that is now their "tradition" -- er -- MARKETING!!! gotta love it--) --Is Hartley threatening other guitar manufactures with viral (ignorant videos) while laying off and closing factories???? (Really did the KILL Agnessi??? wheres he been?)
-- is Hartley SUING Dean? -- come on man--he should sue the undercover boss people --- or hang em in the swamp--
You lost me on Trace Elliot-- which Gibson owned-- then SHUT DOWN PRODUCTION AND LAID OFF A bunch of PEOPLE-(oh my more layoffs approx 200 people according to Wiki) --and now PEAVEY owns Trace Elliot.....?
en.wikipedia.org
PEavey -- MADE SOME GREAT STUFF-- and its CHEAP to score it (my entire point) -- Id probably not like Mr Hartley Peavey-- much like Mr Tuners Discovered about "MR" Paul Reed SMith-- -- most these guys are ego maniacal A$$hats--
So wave the Gibbo flag and defend their honor--they are by no means "perfect" in form function or product I can tell you --its a crap shoot like all the rest ya get good ones and ya get goobers -- but a 250.00 USA made PEavey "goober" dont sting as bad as a 2500.00 usa made Gibson one --to the "average joe" if you know what I mean...
----Im telling ya --- ChIna Made Gibsons are all ready being cranked out..........probably sitting in warehouses now awaiting Summer NAMM 2020 ............
ANd TO any -(maybe new members) - and mainly Gball-(he allready knows Im sure)
- I am NOT angry -- or attacking MR Gball--(he and I do this periodically over Gibson -- which I own and LOVE many of) if it appears so I apologize-- I am merely well -- being difficult-- and voicing a counter point--like poking a bear and running
ANd I dont Like the new GIBBO CEO -- there I SAID it .....its out there........I need to lie down now--- Im dizzy --that was a LOT OF TYPING! --- damn it.................ugh
but CHIBOS are coming --- they are going to FLOOD the market!!!!! everyones gonna have a 400.00 Gibson 59 "reissue" CHina model BUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH