Dead Horse - Vintage vs Modern wiring

[ChasFred]

Sitting here bored to hell and back. No I do not have my Epi close at hand at the moment.
So I put this little file together for those how may not know.

After all this topic is always a hot one when it pops up.






The modern version will maintain the overall volume better when you roll down the volume but at the cost of losing a bit of high end.
If you have a bright pickup that may not seem that bad of an idea, because with less volume and the same amount of treble the tone might be too piercing.

On the other hand, the 50's version keeps the amount of treble the same but drops a bit in volume as soon as you roll down the tone pot.

 

[eSGEe]

you can always do this

 

[Trident]

DOH!

 

[JohnnyGoo]

 

[Mitch Pearrow SJMP]

you can always do this
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[gball]

Sitting here bored to hell and back. No I do not have my Epi close at hand at the moment.
So I put this little file together for those how may not know.

After all this topic is always a hot one when it pops up.


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The modern version will maintain the overall volume better when you roll down the volume but at the cost of losing a bit of high end.
If you have a bright pickup that may not seem that bad of an idea, because with less volume and the same amount of treble the tone might be too piercing.

On the other hand, the 50's version keeps the amount of treble the same but drops a bit in volume as soon as you roll down the tone pot.

Exactly why I prefer modern wiring. I actually find the slight treble rolloff quite useful for backing down into the mix and then popping in front for a solo or other emphasis, whereas the volume rolloff with granddad's wiring es no bueno. There is a reason they changed it after all.

 

[eSGEe]

or this

 

[Ghostwolf]

Did someone say Dead Horse???

 

[Mitch Pearrow SJMP]

or this
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[eSGEe]

Stock Wiring-- Gibson Les Paul Recording Guitar ----- yup\

 

[Mitch Pearrow SJMP]

Stock Wiring-- Gibson Les Paul Recording Guitar ----- yup\
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Never opened mine, had no idea what I was looking at, my epi’s didn’t look like that!!
Cheers Mitch

 

[Trident]

Good grief!
I think I better stick to engine builds!
That there is a SUPER CLUSTER...

SMH I would never figure out what went where.......

 

[Mitch Pearrow SJMP]

Good grief!
I think I better stick to engine builds!
That there is a SUPER CLUSTER...

SMH I would never figure out what went where.......

One wire at a time till she screams

 

[eclecticsynergy]

 

[Trident]

Oh gosh

 

[RVA]

Thanks ChasFred. That is very helpful.

 

[RVA]

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I have created my share of rat's nests. Wire management is not a skill I possess

 

[Mitch Pearrow SJMP]

I have created my share of rat's nests. Wire management is not a skill I possess

I have a squire that would fall into a rats nest!!
Cheers Mitch

 

[Inspector #20]

I always use 50's style wiring when I am putting in my own harness.....



However, on my 2016 Gibson Les Paul 50's Tribute, it sounded so fantastic that I left the PCB in place.



I don't notice much difference because I play with the controls wide open....

 

[Trident]

And I don’t understand any of it