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smitty_p said:
First, Robert, nothing personal against you is meant by anything I've said.

Believe it or not. I really do get the idea of wanting that highly versatile guitar that is nearly a one-stop tone-shop. I've put pen to paper several times to create just that.

Then something happened.

I decided that wouldn't be any fun (for me, at least)! This is where peoples' different personalities become apparent. I realized I didn't want one guitar to do it all. I learned I really like switching guitars to get the sounds of those guitars. I actually enjoy the feel of Stratocaster...and the feel of a Les Paul...and the feel of an SG...and the feel of a big semi-hollow... You get the idea.

I suppose it's two sides of the same coin. For me, I suppose it's less a matter of searching for "my tone." Sure, there are sounds I like, such as a Les Paul driving a raging Marshall or a Strat pushing a meaty Fender. But my obsession became more a matter of how I could harness the guitar's tone and the amp's tone.

As for the roller bridge, I'm curious you would opt for that. I completely get your point about the bend radius, but regular saddles are generally regarded as providing more precise intonation than rollers.

Anyhoo, I don't want you to feel ganged-up on. I get your point and understand your perspective.
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I'm not offended in the least! I also want to put an additional perspective on this debate.

See, I hate switching guitars. When I switch between scale lengths, I lose a degree of my precision. I can feel and hear the difference.

Furthermore, if this Session Assault Weapon Stratocaster Project does what I believe it will, I am going to donate all my remaining guitars (LOL, all 3) to students. I don't want a collection, just one guitar that does what I require.

In all the years I performed with my Schecter, I never carried a backup guitar....I didn't need it. Keep in mind that some of my gigs put $700 in my pocket for (2) 4-hour sets, so reliability is absolute necessity for me. In the studio, on average, a client is paying $100/hour for a session guitarist, so dicking around with tuning problems, or noise issues costs the client money. It costs the guitarist repeat work. It robs a live audience of their connection. For me that's Unacceptable.

Roller bridges - The Schallers are really, really good. I've used them on custom builds...very intonable!!!

I guess I am not your typical guitarist. I have owned a 1959 Gibson Les Paul and it was not an endearing instrument. It was not magical. it was problematic. And, to be totally honest,I've played Epiphone Les Pauls that sounded better. I do not collect guitars...I use them. If they don't measure up, they are gone.

So, the journey continues!!!!
 
smitty_p said:
Really? Cool! I love me some harmonic anomalies, then!

BTW, "Harmonic Anomaly" would be a good name for an psychedelic rock band.
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LOL! Imagine hating the shrill twang of a Telecaster....as I do...and spending about 6 hours tracking with one for a country project...
 
Gahr said:
I definitely never think of a Stratocaster sound when I listen to Van Halen...

I'm sure you are right about the scale length affecting sound, but I'd never place the Frankenstein in the Strat category of sound.

But that's really irrelevant. I love my SGs, you dig your Schecter. That's the important thing. Rock on, brother!

Btw., Ed recorded "Hot for Teacher" on a Flying V. Now there's a nice Gibson sound!
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Me neither.
 
Those are entirely different guitars and rigs, man... They definitely sounded different, but Eddie's tone isn't typical strat to my ears
 
Reportedly Eddie also used his Ibanez Destroyer to record quite a few songs. I've red somewhere that he played it on songs like "On Fire", "Feel Your Love Tonight", "You Really Got Me", "jambs Cryin'" and "Running With the Devil" on VH1. I can't confirm, though. Start og Gibby, Eddies brown sound rocked on the first six albums!
 
Oh my God!
How did this thread go 6 pages without me seeing it?
Blind and stupid I guess....

Sergio that is a beautiful guitar.
Is it a picture of the actual guitar you are getting?
I think the satin 61 RIs are beautiful. They somehow
look smoother and they develop a beautiful patina as
time goes by. Hard to argue with full fret access and
two 57 classics. I don't think you need a vibrato by
the way. You have 2 Stratocasters for that, and by
the way, thank you for not destroying one of your
Strats by "dropping in a humbucker". I would play
it and gig with it for a while before modding it
with a vibrato but that's me and my way.
Anyway, best of luck and many good
times with your new guitar.
 
Sérgio said:
Ok, here she is:

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It came with all the paperwork, both Gibson's and the importing company's.

Came in the right case and box.

Gave it a quick string change and cleaned the frets and nickel parts with Fast Fret.

It's very beautifully finished and since it's a 2012, it already started to get real aged; it looks yellower and more light briwn than it shows in the pictures. The binding is cream colored (aged) and the bridge and pup covers have begun to get some slight tarnish (which I like, it looks better).

Tuners are Kluson:

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And here's a couple of pics of what's under the hood:

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Yes, Tony, these are actual pics of it
 
Sérgio said:
Those are entirely different guitars and rigs, man... They definitely sounded different, but Eddie's tone isn't typical strat to my ears
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I guess it's because I can hear nuances that other claim not to be able to discern...I may not be able to listen to a song and pick out a Les Paul from an SG, but I can hear the differences in scale length.

Ed's tone is typical Humbucker Strat...the 25-1/2" scale length cannot be hidden...which I why my Stratocaster build will be based on a 24-3/4" scale neck...

If you listen to Iron Maiden's early stuff, you can hear the scale length differences between Smith and Murray, even though both are running Humbuckers and nearly identical gear...
 
Gahr said:
Reportedly Eddie also used his Ibanez Destroyer to record quite a few songs. I've red somewhere that he played it on songs like "On Fire", "Feel Your Love Tonight", "You Really Got Me", "jambs Cryin'" and "Running With the Devil" on VH1. I can't confirm, though. Start og Gibby, Eddies brown sound rocked on the first six albums!
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Yes! And what a hack job he did on that!!!

The Ibanez Destroyer is also a 25-1/2" scale length guitar....It sounds bigger, mostly from the wood, but it still has a very identifiable scale length tonal characteristic....
 
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