Amp Comparison Soundclip:

Best Overall Metal Tone ON This Track???

  • #1 Blackstar BRIDGE Only

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  • #1 Blackstar NECK/BRIDGE

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  • #2 Marshall VS265 BRIDGE Only

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • #3 Marshall DSL40C BRIDGE Only

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • #3 Marshall DSL40C NECK/BRIDGE

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    4

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Ok, in this single soundclip, you will hear the following phrase (Blue Oyster Cult's Burning For You) played on my three separate amplifiers - Blackstar ID-Core 100 watt 2X10 Combo, Marshall VS265 2X12 Combo - Marshall DSL40C 1X12 Combo.

ALL amps are set identical - Gain is full, bass at 3/4, mids full, treble at 3/4. DSL40C is on the 40 watt setting.

My 2016 Gibson SG is used on this recording exclusively and All amps are recorded through the D.I. (Emulated) Line Out.

Each phrase will be FIRST played once on the bridge pickup and then on BOTH pickups.

(Bridge is a Alnico II Gibson 57 Classic + 9.00kΩ / neck is a Gibson Burstbucker Pro Alnico V 8.4kΩ)

To recap, the SG has a 1950's style cloth harness, 500kΩ Bourn pots and a .033uf K40Y on the bridge and a .015uf K40Y on the neck.

BOTh volume pots are full up. The bridge tone pot is set to '8' and the neck tone pot to '10' respectively.

The recording was run as a single left and right channel track with a pause to switch amplifiers. No compressor or other internal/external effects were used. All audible reverb is from the amps.

Here's a couple of interesting things...the 2X12 VS265 sounds much bigger, both to the ear AND when going direct out into the USB console.

Secondly, my customary pick attack produces a harmonic quality in the BOTH pickup mode that is barely audible in the BRIDGE pickup mode.

Which do you like best or least and why???

AMP COMPARISON - 2017 Blackstar vs. 1997 Marshall VS265 2x12 vs. 2015 marshall DSL40C


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So, in fairness, is this poll better named “amp direct line out comparison soundclip”?

Hmmm...I think I stressed that in the description....No??? Obviously, these amps all sound different, even though the knob settings are identical, but my particular area of interest, from a tonal standpoint, is in how the two pickups sound in UNISON between the three amplifiers....
 
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I read this because of the title “Amp Comparison Soundclip”, and as I read I learned that there were no speakers involved. Speakers are a big contributor to an amp sound. I feel cheated.



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I read this because of the title “Amp Comparison Soundclip”, and as I read I learned that there were no speakers involved. Speakers are a big contributor to an amp sound. I feel cheated.
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I agree and empathize with you. I made this recording early this morning, while everyone was still asleep, so mic'ing amps wasn't an option, but i will say the line out is a very good representation of what my ear hears. the VS265 sounds HUGE in comparison to the other amps...
 
Definitely the 1997 Marshall for me followed by the Blackstar...there was just way to much of an overdrive/breakup in the DSL40C, so much so I couldn't listen to it...
 
So, I invite a colleague to visit this page and have a listen to the clip. He immediately responds by saying, "the DSL40C is tuned all wrong. I'm sending you 4 vintage 50's KenRad pewter-plate 12AX7's. You're gonna love the way you sound - I guarantee it. "

I'm clueless but this sounds like a good thing!!!

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What is crazy to me is how bright - and yet how full - the guitar sounds when playing both pickups in unison...its a strange tone...its also super sensitive to pick attack...must be the combo of Alnico II bridge and Alnico V neck???

Is this something like the Peter Green tone???
 
What is crazy to me is how bright - and yet how full - the guitar sounds when playing both pickups in unison...its a strange tone...its also super sensitive to pick attack...must be the combo of Alnico II bridge and Alnico V neck???

Is this something like the Peter Green tone???

Your going to have to play some blues for me to determine if it's close to Peter Green...
 
Nope, can't hear it...maybe because of all the overdrive and my ears being old and worn out...thanks Ted Nugent!

DUDE! No Way!!! It's dramatic!!! The second phrase on every amp is played with BOTH pickups on. The guitar becomes hyper-sensitive to pick attack and normal playing produces a pick harmonic...a honky type of tone, but it's not muddy like most dual humbuckers are in the middle position....
 
Don't want to steal the thread, but here's my take on the Peter Green tone. Middle position starts at around 2:00.

Forgive me. This was recorded early in the morning; I'm still in my pyjamas (no work for me today!), messy beard, and I'm wearing a competing brewery's t-shirt. Sound is fairly low quality since it was recorded on an iPhone 6.

 
Dude---
1. Thats a GREAT GOLD TOP
2. AMZAING PLAYING----more videos please-----can you start a you tube channel....??? really...
3. How do you find time to read ALL THOSE BOOKS!?!?!

Seriously--the tone from that rig is KILLER-- love it --thanks for sharing --

When I grow up I wanna play like Gahr!!!
 
Dude---
1. Thats a GREAT GOLD TOP
2. AMZAING PLAYING----more videos please-----can you start a you tube channel....??? really...
3. How do you find time to read ALL THOSE BOOKS!?!?!

Seriously--the tone from that rig is KILLER-- love it --thanks for sharing --

When I grow up I wanna play like Gahr!!!
1. Thanks. I like it a lot.
2. I wouldn't know what to talk about on a YouTube channel, but thanks for the kind words!
3. I don't.:D Mind you, I have read a lot of them, but most of them before I had kids and before I started working at the brewery... These days I read music biographies on my Kindle...
 
Don't want to steal the thread, but here's my take on the Peter Green tone. Middle position starts at around 2:00.

Forgive me. This was recorded early in the morning; I'm still in my pyjamas (no work for me today!), messy beard, and I'm wearing a competing brewery's t-shirt. Sound is fairly low quality since it was recorded on an iPhone 6.


Very good in every respect! Your demo video very Cleary demonstrates the unique out of phase, 'PG' tone!
 
So, whatever is happening on the middle position of my S-G is the strings have now become hyper-sensitive to touch. I can play a passage normally on the bridge pickup, and then switch to the middle, and the same picking technique now gives a very pronounced 'honk/harmonic ' and the strings feel energized. Its very hard to describe....
 
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