Ultimate in adjustability
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eSGEe
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VOX was very interested in tonal adjustability
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eSGEe
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Well ya see Goo--- what ya do, is ya choose one of the lovely "versatile" instruments in the post above......
And one of these pedal boards........
And you run it through this amp head...................
Into this mixing board...............................
After about 4.5 YEARS of dicking with knobs ---- and at least 3 hours adjusting your pickups --- you will have a note--- maybe a chord---- you like --- and you damn well better have recorded it as you will NEVER in a lifetime remember WTF all that
e was set at to get that GOLDEN tone..........................................man --that --- would suck
The guy in the bell bottoms in pic one is complaining that the flanger is not on the correct setting and throwing off the ENTIRE song.......the guitarist is about to turn the amp off and quit because he cant deal with the pressure ----and he ONLY HAS A SINGLE PUP telestraster---------------the shame
And one of these pedal boards........
And you run it through this amp head...................
Into this mixing board...............................
After about 4.5 YEARS of dicking with knobs ---- and at least 3 hours adjusting your pickups --- you will have a note--- maybe a chord---- you like --- and you damn well better have recorded it as you will NEVER in a lifetime remember WTF all that
e was set at to get that GOLDEN tone..........................................man --that --- would suckThe guy in the bell bottoms in pic one is complaining that the flanger is not on the correct setting and throwing off the ENTIRE song.......the guitarist is about to turn the amp off and quit because he cant deal with the pressure ----and he ONLY HAS A SINGLE PUP telestraster---------------the shame
RVA
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I am considering taking esge's advice and dumbing down all my guitars. I have already crazy glued the pickups in place on 5 of them. But in order to get the whole experience, I randomly turned the height adjustment screws without listening before I glued them in place. I am not sure why I did not do this sooner. Man, this is going to be GREAT!
Disclaimer: the above was for satirical purposes only, in order to highlight the inherent flaws n the thought processes of a certain member
Disclaimer: the above was for satirical purposes only, in order to highlight the inherent flaws n the thought processes of a certain member
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eSGEe
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Are you adjusting your pickups for individual playing or for cutting through a mix? ugh oh--- wait are they adjusted to proper LOAD? Are you using the same guitar that the manufacturer used when testing????
WIRE---is the gauge in your guitar the same as ANderson or Duncan or Dimarzzio used when testing??????
I mean if your going to "properly adjust" all this
e--- I suggest retiring and getting an electrical engineering degree....then you may want to look at an AUDIO ENGINEERING Degree.....or you could just say "F" it and play the guitar.......................whatever. I choose the later
Tony M.
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[QUOTE="eSGEe, post: 67095, member: 3
I mean if your going to "properly adjust" all thise---
I suggest retiring and getting an electrical engineering degree....
then you may want to look at an AUDIO ENGINEERING Degree.....
or you could just say "F" it and play the guitar.......................whatever.
I choose the later[/QUOTE]
Isn't it "I chose the latter"?
I was going to leave it alone but I couldn't adjust to it.
I had to do something to try and fix it..
I mean if your going to "properly adjust" all this
e---I suggest retiring and getting an electrical engineering degree....
then you may want to look at an AUDIO ENGINEERING Degree.....
or you could just say "F" it and play the guitar.......................whatever.
I choose the later[/QUOTE]
Isn't it "I chose the latter"?
I was going to leave it alone but I couldn't adjust to it.
I had to do something to try and fix it..
RVA
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I adjust it until it makes me smile the most. Notice the words "the most". You can just smile as much as the maufacturer's settings allow. I can adjust to taste. I have it my way - like McDonald's.
Are you adjusting your pickups for individual playing or for cutting through a mix? ugh oh--- wait are they adjusted to proper LOAD? Are you using the same guitar that the manufacturer used when testing????
WIRE---is the gauge in your guitar the same as ANderson or Duncan or Dimarzzio used when testing??????
I mean if your going to "properly adjust" all this
or you could just say "F" it and play the guitar.......................whatever. I choose the later
You can keep endlessly flipping guitars until you find the perfect one - OR - just get one that is adjustable to taste. Now who is wasting time? Then you can flip the other for money so that others can pray it was manufactured to their liking.
You do not have to have every adjustment, but the basics are helpful (like pickup height screws). However, since you canoot refute that, you CHOSE to go to the extreme examples above, which proves my point. Get some pickups that go up and down. You will thank me for it.
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Awe c'mon! It’s not all about the time and money!? Is it!?
It’s all about how much meat you can stuff in your freezer isn’t it?!?!
I am a meat popsicle...
It’s all about how much meat you can stuff in your freezer isn’t it?!?!
I am a meat popsicle...
RVA
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No, goodness knows I spend time just imagining ways to waste money. But esge needs help finding the flaws in his theory.
RVA
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Here is a link to the Marshall Code manual. It does not require an engineering degree. It is 13 pages and has big font and pretty pictures. If you can read it, you may be able to work the amp and you will not need to return it next time. If you need help with any of the words, just start a thread. We can help you.I mean if your going to "properly adjust" all this
Honestly, is this about a guitar's simplicity, or yours?
RVA
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But...He Started It!!!
Are you adjusting your pickups for individual playing or for cutting through a mix? ugh oh--- wait are they adjusted to proper LOAD? Are you using the same guitar that the manufacturer used when testing????
WIRE---is the gauge in your guitar the same as ANderson or Duncan or Dimarzzio used when testing??????
I mean if your going to "properly adjust" all this
or you could just say "F" it and play the guitar.......................whatever. I choose the later
All the way up as close to the strings as they can go and not touch the poles...
I asked my friend, Fil Oliveri of Solo Dallas fame, to tell me about howAngus set up his low output Gibson pickups. Fil has had access to all ofAngus' guitars and amps. here is what he sent me this morning:
Robert!
I am doing very well, thank you! Andyou?
Robert, the pickup height has been ashigh as it could go in the early years - they would do it in order to get the maximum output possible. Despite what people may think or say (somethink that pickup too close makes you lose ‘tone’ etc.) many guitarists in theearly days would bring the pickup super high, as high as it gets before ittouches the strings. So in order to do this, you would flush the pickupscrews with the surface of the pickup cover (so that the string itself will not touch the screw once it’s raised all the way up) and then, you just raise the pickup itself as high as it’ll go.
In order to do this, you need to fret both E strings (one at a time) at thevery last fret; then raise the pickup (i.e., fret the thick E string at the lastfret and raise the correspondent side of the bridge pickup - same for theneck pickup).
Then do the thin E string, sameprocedure.
I would do it for both pickups - I do, in fact.
And so did Angus.
You have to realize that in the early days before the Schaffer-Vega, Angus would solo on the neck pickup (live) most of the times. So he needed themaximum output, always, on that pickup as well.
The reason is, in the 1970s, you hadonly certain Marshall models - andthat was that.
When the SVDS arrived, Angus began soloing exclusively on the bridge pickup - still he needed maximum output.
Raising the pickup all the way will also thicken the sound. Something I always thought to be desirable.
In recent times, I have seen Anguswith the pickup always raised all theway, or almost all the way up. He maynot need all that output anymore, but I am sure that he still likes that type of sound.
Hope it helps!
Robert!
I am doing very well, thank you! Andyou?
Robert, the pickup height has been ashigh as it could go in the early years - they would do it in order to get the maximum output possible. Despite what people may think or say (somethink that pickup too close makes you lose ‘tone’ etc.) many guitarists in theearly days would bring the pickup super high, as high as it gets before ittouches the strings. So in order to do this, you would flush the pickupscrews with the surface of the pickup cover (so that the string itself will not touch the screw once it’s raised all the way up) and then, you just raise the pickup itself as high as it’ll go.
In order to do this, you need to fret both E strings (one at a time) at thevery last fret; then raise the pickup (i.e., fret the thick E string at the lastfret and raise the correspondent side of the bridge pickup - same for theneck pickup).
Then do the thin E string, sameprocedure.
I would do it for both pickups - I do, in fact.
And so did Angus.
You have to realize that in the early days before the Schaffer-Vega, Angus would solo on the neck pickup (live) most of the times. So he needed themaximum output, always, on that pickup as well.
The reason is, in the 1970s, you hadonly certain Marshall models - andthat was that.
When the SVDS arrived, Angus began soloing exclusively on the bridge pickup - still he needed maximum output.
Raising the pickup all the way will also thicken the sound. Something I always thought to be desirable.
In recent times, I have seen Anguswith the pickup always raised all theway, or almost all the way up. He maynot need all that output anymore, but I am sure that he still likes that type of sound.
Hope it helps!