Tone Chasing Video
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ibmorjamn
Ambassador of Moar Jammin
I would agree but finding a way to do those comparisons is something I think needed to be done . He is young and he admits that but he did do a little research with regard to studio recording.
Like I said , engineering and production (studio magic )is imho a very large part of what you hear on vinyl back in the day.
How many people bought 20 different amps, guitars , speakers , pickups trying to get that tone ?
I am one.
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ibmorjamn
Ambassador of Moar Jammin
The "tone " might be the Neve console, preamps mic'd up in a room with the half stack on 10. The other reason you can't get the "tone" is if you had 1 room with the amp on 10 it would have to be a very large room so you could possibly preserve your hearing or ear plugs. If it's not recorded, it's just a memory of the tone.
Sapient
Ambassador of Vocal Inspiration
I remember one problem we all had was trying to get the perfect "modified Marshall" tone back in the '80s. The lucky ones could have this done but the rest of us were kinda outta luck. This all stemmed in the fact that hard rock amps just didn't have enough gain back in the day for us common folks. Pedals would not do it like an actual tube amp mod would. So, as you say, the battle would go on.
Jim Lill is a pretty humble guy and is avoiding tooting his own horn. He has done more than a little research; he actually has a degree in audio engineering technology. He is a professional musician and has spent a lot of time in the studio and on stage.
He is smarter than he lets on in his videos.
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ibmorjamn
Ambassador of Moar Jammin
If you watched the video you would see it's not about finding the holy grail amp.
This does a good job trying dispell myths about tone in a very methodical way.
Many youtube channels guys are just talking. He has some very good points.
One of witch most of the internet posting is crap and even eludes to forums can be complete nonsense.
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ibmorjamn
Ambassador of Moar Jammin
The other thing you missed here is in my post:
In around 2012-2013 I had my Marshall JCM 900 4102 with a 4 x 12. Room mic'd in a very large 16 x 40 metal building.
Where on earth do you open up 100w amp 4 x 12 x 2 stack ? A football stadium ?
gball
Ambassador of Boogie
That's a great sound. Problem is it's a great sound that's been done to death. Everyone plugged into a Marshall and everyone sounded the same (as evidenced by all the songs he chose to play a bit of in the clip).
I'm glad there are a lot more "rock" tones available these days, and more glad that you can get them without ear-ripping volume.
67plexi
Ambassador of Amps
No I did not watch the video same person that speaker cabinet materials don't matter what BS.
I have not played my Marshall amps on stage since the year 2000 switched to Trainwreck Express leads and Trainwreck Rocket cleans
2008 switched to Dumble ODS 50 watt combos x 2 Marshall transformers KT77 power tubes EVM12L speakers
This year using the Express amp 2 x 12" Marshall cabinet and ODS 50 combo
Small clubs our band plays in use a Vox AC 15 EF86 EL84 or Tweed Deluxe amps.
I enjoy the music sport.
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ibmorjamn
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Nice collection , I do think the guy is on the right track for the average player that is tone chasing.
My point is studio magic is heard on the vinyl besides the gear and the person playing it. He is focused on mic and recording. Kind of the same except studio gear makes so much difference.