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We are going to start doing rehearsals 'direct out' and using the Bheringer P1 headphone interface. Since my DSL40C'S do not have a line out, I looked my other equipment for a possible solution.

I've been impressed with how the Blackstar sounds through my DAW, so today I thought I would hook it to the pedalboard.

I was surprised how natural the TS-9 sounded through the Blackstar. The two really sounded good together.

You can't beat the tube amp at volume, but the Blackstar really shines at low and medium recording volumes...
 
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I've had pretty good luck with the ID:Core as a recording interface. It's provided better results for me than using the Boss Katana. But, it doesn't come close to using the CabClone in my Mark 5. That's the real deal, and I suspect if you hooked your Marshall up to one you would feel the same.
 
gball said:
I've had pretty good luck with the ID:Core as a recording interface. It's provided better results for me than using the Boss Katana. But, it doesn't come close to using the CabClone in my Mark 5. That's the real deal, and I suspect if you hooked your Marshall up to one you would feel the same.
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Maybe so, I do know that my Marshall's do not sound that great using the Weber's D.I. feature...
 
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I think newer DSL40s have a speaker-simulated line out built in.

I have a couple of attenuators (used a Powersoak live for years back in the 80s) but they all share a common shortcoming - they're really only at their best when taking a couple of dBs off the top. If you try to use them for bringing the volume down much more than that, your live tone suffers. This is true of the more recent Weber and Jet City attenuators as well as the venerable Powersoak.

I bet that CabClone is great. I'm a firm believer in Boogie products, in terms of both tone and build quality. Would be great if it had a level control for the speaker out as well as the line out, like the UA Ox box does. Of course, the UA costs more than four times as much.

Best speaker simulator I've found is the Neunaber Iconoclast. As with anything, there are pluses and minuses. Pluses: great tone, true stereo, and a smart noisegate. Incredibly sophisticated deep-editing of the sound can be done via the USB port using the free software. Minuses: no load box - only accepts line levels, not an amp's speaker out. And while it has true balanced outputs there wasn't room for XLR jacks, so you need to use TRS-to-XLR adaptors. Designed for the studio rather than the stage. But I could see using one live with an amp that had an uncompensated line out.
 
gball said:
I've had pretty good luck with the ID:Core as a recording interface. It's provided better results for me than using the Boss Katana. But, it doesn't come close to using the CabClone in my Mark 5. That's the real deal, and I suspect if you hooked your Marshall up to one you would feel the same.
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I'm looking into one. The D.I. out on the Weber sounds awful...really...I was surprised.
 
IMO pedal/amp matching may become more critical depending on how much the amp's OD characteristics are being used.

Generally an amp running dead clean seems to accept most pedals pretty well. But I think the more drive you're using from the amp itself, the more particular they can be about matching with pedals - particularly ODs. Voxes are notorious for not liking certain drive pedals, yet I suspect an old 100W Vox running clean would be more forgiving than the small combos are.

Arrived at a show two years ago to find the backline amp for me was an old 50W solid state Hiwatt. I expected it to be pretty awful (I'm a tube guy and the amp's drive tone was hopelessly harsh to my ear) but it surprised me by taking pedals very well. I ran it pretty clean and left a Tube Screamer on for virtually the entire set, kicking in other drives too when appropriate. Despite my low expectations the result wasn't half bad.

It does make sense that the more an amp is driven, the more its individual character asserts itself, which would seem to increase the likelihood of tonal mismatches.

I don't have any proof this is universal. But I'd argue it over a beer.
 
Robert Herndon said:
We are going to start doing rehearsals 'direct out' and using the Bheringer P1 headphone interface. Since my DSL40C'S do not have a line out, I looked my other equipment for a possible solution.

I've been impressed with how the Blackstar sounds through my DAW, so today I thought I would hook it to the pedalboard.

I was surprised how natural the TS-9 sounded through the Blackstar. The two really sounded good together.

You can't beat the tube amp at volume, but the Blackstar really shines at low and medium recording volumes...
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Hey Robert,

Are you using any type of cab simulation with the Weber d.i.?

I use my line out frequently on my Mini Mass, but it's useless without some sort of cab emulator ( e.q. really)
 
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