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I was on another site. There was a lot of comments about PRS guitars sounding flat, no life. I was shaking my head, how do they figure that. They do have different tones i must admit, but flat not what i hear. One guy mentioned about Carlos Santana, he makes a guitar sing, and that's who i thought about, this is one of the songs i thought about right away, now you tell me if this sounds flat. I rest my case.


 
Can you elaborate, please. This is what I read that has always steered away from PRS. How do they sound "different"?

Can you elaborate, please. This is what I read that has always steered away from PRS. How do they sound "different"?

What i mean is their pickups are a little warmer, that would not deter me from buying one as you can see Carlos playing smooth, sound is fantastic, to my ears . Anyway here is a video, thought maybe answer some questions for you.

 
Can you elaborate, please. This is what I read that has always steered away from PRS. How do they sound "different"?

Can you elaborate, please. This is what I read that has always steered away from PRS. How do they sound "different"?

What i mean is their pickups are a little warmer, that would not deter me from buying one as you can see Carlos playing smooth, sound is fantastic, to my ears . Anyway here is a video, thought maybe answer some questions for you.

 
What i mean is their pickups are a little warmer, that would not deter me from buying one as you can see Carlos playing smooth, sound is fantastic, to my ears . Anyway here is a video, thought maybe answer some questions for you.

Well if that's all it is then that's nothing. I've never had a guitar that I didn't swap the pickups in.
 
Edit: Well that didn't work. The forum is messed up, I can't even post a reply without it quoting my last post. :mad:

BTW this was an edit of my double post. At least the edit function still works, lol.
 
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I've been a PRS guy for decades. Have a bunch of 'em now and I love nearly all of them.
(There aren't any that I dislike, just a few I don't reach for as often. )
Anyway, my main gigging guitars have been PRS since I first discovered them back in the 80s.

I can sorta understand some players not liking them though. No brand suits everybody, after all.
Still, PRS have their own thing going, perhaps more than the older big brands.

There are a few levels to this, I think.

First, you can't expect them to sound and feel like your favorite Gibson or Fender.
I've often said, you have to accept a PRS and appreciate it for what it is, not for what it isn't.
The basic design may be an approximate midpoint between Gibson and Fender standards, but it isn't an analog of either.
I like being able to touch on both words, both tonally and feelwise.
The PRS scale length can feel a bit unnatural after a lifetime of playing 25½" and 24¾" axes.
For me at first this was subliminal - it was a while before I could identify it.
Didn't stop me from loving that first PRS from the moment I picked it up.

My personal thing is lively necks. And nearly all the PRSi I've played have delivered on that. Even the import series, with very few exceptions.

Second issue: PRS pickups aren't always what you'd expect from looking at the guitar.
The original 80s 'T&B' hums are crunchy, glassy and immediate-yet-singing. They split incredibly well thanks to rod mags hiding in their slug coils.
But they're entirely different from ordinary humbuckers and require their own rig settings.
Ditto for the DGT set - amazingly touch responsive & detailed but you can't use the same settings you would with a Les Paul. Too different.
The VB/HFS set were great for classic rock tones.
I liked the Dragon One set for high gain work, though not ideal for cleans; in the long run I found it a little limiting.
Some of the more conventional PAF-type PRS humbuckers are very, very good.
Big fan of the 57/08s for 3D sepiatone blues sound, also the 59/09s, for a more modern 'rock' character in vintage output.
The low wind ones didn't suit my taste quite as well. But they were exceptionally open-sounding, lots of air in the top end.
The core Starla hums are vintagey too, and pretty classic sounding. I could swear there's a little Gretsch in their DNA.
McCarty hums have their own charms, though being A4-loaded they can seem pretty lackuster until you turn up. They come alive at volume.

Anyway, I think a big part of the general perception of PRS as 'flat' is the character of their pickups. Many require specific dialing-in to be at their best.
Most of these pickups don't impose a lot of their own peronality; they let the wood and the player determine more of the character.
This is a different approach to many modern humbuckers. You have to be a little more attentive but you're rewarded with a more articulate voice.

That said, several of my PRSi have had the pickups swapped out so I can use them live without having to redial every time I switch guitars.
(I've changed pickups in many of my Gibsons too - some more than once over the decades. The Fenders not so much - only a few got swaps.)

Not unrelated to that pickup issue - PRS generally seem to respond well to a certain level of consistency; they aren't quite as 'forgiving' as a typical Gibson.
That's not to say they demand mechanical precision - on the contrary, I find them highly responsive to nuance and to my mood of the moment.
Just that they arct a bit like a magnifying glass: they accentuate the subtle details that matter, and they won't smooth over any sloppiness.
It takes a little getting used to.
 
Even Robben Ford plays one once in a while. Although it took over two years of back and forth to build one he liked, and then he changed the pickups after he got it.

Saying a guitar sounds lifeless or sterile is a BS argument. It doesn’t sound like anything until someone plays it, and then the soul comes from the player.

And no guitar is “forgiving.” That’s another piece of BS that goes around.
 
Yeah well, Gilmour, sounds like Gilmour no matter what guitar he plays, same for all the other players.
Same for me.
If a guitar sounds flat no life, look at the player
Yep. I sound like poop regardless the guitar I pick up. My kid makes them sing. Same guitar!!
 
My first PRS was a 1989 custom 24 10 top I replaced the sweet switch with a tone control and knob from PRS my main stage guitar 11 years running
stayed in tune never broke a string granted it was the most expensive new guitar at that time 1989 two years ago
found custom 24 10 top Artiest never been played in a glass display case Brazilian rosewood neck and fingerboard gold hardware 2008
my main recording guitar my living room guitar the one I write songs with is a McCarthy 2004 Brazilian rosewood quilt 10 top it has the same exact
neck profile as the 1989 Custom 24 Wide Fat neck love it a other one that had never been played.
One more I'm chomping at the bit for whats making me not buy it dings and a changed pickup if I'm going to pay that kind of money
it has to be mint 100% stock learned that lesson with vintage guitars.

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And I have a McCarthy 594
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