Could be the perfect guitar

$800 US, about $1,095 Aust for a Crafted in Indonesia.
Things move quickly but some time back I was told the quality trail went.
USA
Japan
Mexico
Korea
China
Indonesia
Probably got that wrong, educate me. :confused:
 
Interesting... it's got a ABR type bridge and stop bar/tailpiece. $800 is kind of steep for an Indonesian made guitar.
 
Yeah a Bigsby.
It's cool but kinda unnatural.
But I like it.
Loose the stoptail, add a B5 and it could be a new best friend.
 
Hmmm, yeah, that's a nice guitar but that is an awful lot of scratch for an Indonesian guitar.

$800 US, about $1,095 Aust for a Crafted in Indonesia.
Things move quickly but some time back I was told the quality trail went.
USA
Japan
Mexico
Korea
China
Indonesia
Probably got that wrong, educate me. :confused:

I can only speak from my own personal experience (guitars I have actually played/owned) but I would have to revise that list thus:

USA
Germany
Japan
Korea
Mexico
Indonesia
China
 
I had an Indonesian Strat that was killer. I wish I'd kept it. Someone convinced me Mim was better. It isn't. I played a couple of those Chapman's last year. nicely made guitars, but not appealing price wise and Rob likes brighter tone than I.
 
"Pickups: Seymour Duncan SP90-1NRWRP Vintage P-90 (Neck), SP90-3B Custom P-90 (Bridge)"
... those are some very nice pickups in that guitar. That pickup set alone is about $200.

I thought the "I" in Indonesia looks kind of funny. Serial number fonts or characters look strange, too.

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This 'un's better.
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This ML-3 is really nice. The whole line of Chapman's is killer and affordable. Made in Korea, and made very well.

Cool info from the factory:
Day one

Day two:
 
I had an Indonesian Strat that was killer. I wish I'd kept it. Someone convinced me Mim was better. It isn't. I played a couple of those Chapman's last year. nicely made guitars, but not appealing price wise and Rob likes brighter tone than I.

It's exactly the subjective nature of these things that makes me sure to include the disclaimer of my own experience. I do not doubt that experiences vary and everyone has their own take. The country of origin and the cost are not effective gauges of what is good for an individual player.
 
$800 US, about $1,095 Aust for a Crafted in Indonesia.
Things move quickly but some time back I was told the quality trail went.
USA
Japan
Mexico
Korea
China
Indonesia
Probably got that wrong, educate me. :confused:

Based on personal experience and 25 guitars for samples...USA quality is currently suffering...Korean keeps improving.

Japan
USA
Korea
Mexico
China
Indonesia
and the new entry and least experience perfecting the craft...
Viet Nam
 
Based on personal experience and 25 guitars for samples...USA quality is currently suffering...Korean keeps improving.

That does make sense. The largest producer of guitars in the world, Samick, is a Korean company.

Most guitars that are made in Korea, regardless of the name on the headstock, are likely made by Samick since they OEM for other brands.
 
My spalted maple Fender tele was made in Indonesia. The quality is impeccable.

The Indonesian guitars are starting to bring their "A" game. I have a friend with an Indonesian-made Fender Strat. It really is a nicely made guitar.
 
Ya know, I see a lot of people complaining about foreign made guitars, if it's not a Gibson or Fender it's crap. That said, I've seen and played tons of Gibsons and Fenders that ARE crap and way over priced.

I jut bought a MIM 60's style Strat with a lacquered body and neck that I would hold up against most reissue or vintage guitars.
 
<<<<<<<<<<<<<, has a Japanese made Fender Steve Harris P bass.
<<<<<<<<<<<<, has a Chinese Squier CV Tele
<<<<<<<<<<< Indonesian made (Vintage Mod) P bass
 
Ya know, I see a lot of people complaining about foreign made guitars, if it's not a Gibson or Fender it's crap. That said, I've seen and played tons of Gibsons and Fenders that ARE crap and way over priced.

I jut bought a MIM 60's style Strat with a lacquered body and neck that I would hold up against most reissue or vintage guitars.

So True! Two of my favorite guitars are Korean made and the are NOT Gibson or Fender...

...one is my Line 6 JTV-59 Variax and the other is my Guild Starfire IV. Both are fantastic guitars with not a flaw on them. Then look, play and sound incredible!

Most of my Fenders have been great too, but the most expensive one, an American Deluxe had fret issues. Gibson's are hit or miss lately...

The Asians still seem to have more pride in their work and factory conditions and technology are improving the product they put out.
 
IMHO, for people who live in nations other than USA, the whole issue of where a guitar is made
might seem unimportant. If a guitar is affordable and well made and sounds fine, what else matters?

For those of us who live in USA, the issue is a political issue, which bears on the very real US problem
of industries leaving our country and rebuilding their production facilities in third world nations where the workers
make diddly-squat. Throwing our people out of work. Telling us we priced ourselves out of the market.
Paying other workers less to do the same job, and make the same product, in the name of profit.

We call it : The Race to the Bottom... where the plant leaves the U.S. to avoid paying Union wages,
and relocates in Japan where the workers make less. Then when Japanese workers become organized and
demand fair pay, the plant moves to Korea, to pay less wages. Throw 'em outa work...

The process repeats itself, and when Korean workers begin to agitate for better wages, the plant relocates
to China where people are more controlled. When corruption issues in China
begin to tap into profits, the plant relocates to Indonesia, to begin again. Each time, the working wage is less.

In a sick way, it's only money talking... People in many nations know how to make good music,
and they know how to make good instruments. The question for a Citizen of the World is: what's best for ME.

I'm no purist... I own a couple of Chi-com made Epiphones, which I like right well. I also own guitars made
in USA by Gibson and Fender and Martin and Mossman... those are my working instruments. I try to keep an
open mind. And of course I like spending diddly-squat to get an excellent guitar.

Do I care if it's made in a sweat shop by uninsured Child labor, or forced labor?
Yes, I do.

As I see it, the major problem with buying Asian made guitars is that it separates the guitar's quality issues from the brand's recognition and reputation. People buy because of
price alone. If I buy a US made Gibson, I get a warranty. I can return the guitar and get
a replacement or a refund. I pay a premium price for all this.

If I buy an Asian made guitar from gawd knows who, I get what they send me, it is what it is. Is that good enough? If not, then fix it.
Many of us feel that if we buy a cheap Epiphone, we can spend the money we didn't spend
on PRICE... to correct its flaws and turn it into a worthwhile instrument. That actually works,
and I have done it. But where does that leave us as a community? I don't know.
 
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