Biddlin's foolproof setup method

BGood

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This subject has to be pinned somewhere.
Thanks Biddlin.


Begin by setting the bridge height for frets 17-21(2) so that the strings play buzz free at the lowest possible height.

Start with low E. Lower the bass side until it buzzes, raise until clear. Check A and D raise slightly if needed to get clean notes. Then do the treble side. If you bend notes up here, try a few typical bends, to make sure they don't buzz out.

When all strings play clean go to the lower frets and neck relief. Play the high E string from fret 1 to fret 16, increasing relief (loosening trussrod) to relieve buzz or decreasing relief (tightening trussrod) to lower the string height. So tighten, by fractional turns, until it buzzes and back off until it doesn't. If you bend strings , do your typical bends to insure they don't buzz out. Once satisfied, check the other strings and make small adjustments as needed.

Once you have acceptable relief, i.e. no buzz and easy action, set your intonation and you're done.

This is the opposite order of most setup directions. It is based on performance and not measurements, hence, I don't take any. It works because the neck is immobile between frets 17 and 22. The trussrod only affects lower frets. By setting the upper end first, you know any buzzes are coming from too little relief. This method works for most guitars, with truss rods.
 
Wealth of knowledge from the Republic of Cali.

Thanks for the info Biddy, and thanks for posting Bgood!
 
I had adopted a similar methodology - foregoing measuring once the fixed measurements are checked (nut slot height, etc.)
This is especially useful for a heavy ham handed clumsy strummer like myself.

Imagine me, formerly an over-fed long haired leaping gnome (credit Eric Burdon), doing guitar setups, hmmm.

But Biddlin' put it into laser focus and thats my solid SOP now.

Thanks Biddlin', and congrats on being immortalized in a Sticky.
 
I never measure anything. I just adjust until the guitar feels right and doesn't buzz.
(Sometimes it sounds like a buzz saw but that's not what we're talking about here.)
The next time I do a guitar I will try doing things in this order instead of my way.
Biddens way sounds easier. Thank you sir. Be well.
 
Really good to see this here. Assuming no neck irregularities like high frets or twist, & with the nut correctly cut, this is the quickest & easiest method of setting up your guitar's action. Foolproof is an apt description. Thanks to Biddlin & to BGood for posting. To the above post "yes". Cheers
 
Funny you mention this as I finally have been playing my acoustic more, and never messed with the set up in the year and a half or so I have had it. This past weekend i dressed and lubed the nut slots nicely.
It was very pingy when tuning due to nut slot binding.

I bought it used. It is literally almost as new in the box.

I tried to lessen the relief a little and could not. I slacked the strings a bit to get my fingers better access to the allen wrench, and worked the wrench back and forth. I had a full turn or so of very loose then a dead stop in either direction and could not lessen / flatten the neck relief.

I held it upside down with headstock pointing downward on a chair and sent several blasts of WD-40 down the rod.
I dont know how far it actually went or if it had any effect, or if just continuing to exercise the rod got me enough.

The playability is much better but the action is still way high at 12; I guess I'll be trying my first saddle fitting this weekend.
 
some acoustics have shims under the bridge.Others you have to just sand them down.

Thats what I'm anticipating either way.
I'm scared. Electrics seem like MACHINES.
Acoustics seem like, I dont know, more like a true Luthiery kinda thing.

I know I can just order another saddle, but it just seems different.
It may be that it is just unfamiliar, even as it is mostly the same.

gotta get my Over the Hills and Far Away down tight!!
 
try to get your neck relief where you want it first then monkey with the bridge saddle.tune the guitar to the tuning you play it in to check your adjustments
 
Thanks Johnny, yep this is a budget, but pretty nice, Yamaha FG700s

Wiggle it.
Just a
Little bit.
Ya gotta wiggle it
just a little bit

Sounds like there should have been a punch line
No?
 
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Very good topic. I remember that our friend Wade (Walks backwards) has a very useful and smart method of strat bridge setup too. I will search and post it!
 
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