NPBD! New Patchbay Day!

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Well….after blowing up @LiveeviL2000 ’s thread, looking for an A/B switch for his effects loops, I ordered this little ART T-patch 8 point patchbay. I was looking for a solution to a similar situation: sick of spinning amp heads around to re-patch effects loops and such. I also wanted to try some quick and easy wet/dry amp setups. This seemed like it would fit the bill well enough.
Well, come to find out, it actually works pretty well so far. For the simple patching of effects loops, it is flawless so far. As to the wet/dry amp setup, it works as expected, but there can be some low hum present. This was completely eliminated by using channel b on my Radial Big Shot ABY for its transformer isolated ground lift. So…..yay! Mission accomplished. I can keep my main amps effects loops patched into the patchbay, and just insert the send and return cables to the desired amp. All amps remain functional(as if they have a jumper cable inserted in the loop), and perform well, and quietly.
I’m going to have to look into a simple solution for the hum when feeding multiple amps…mainly because I’ve become very attached to the Big Shot ABY for my bass rig.

Alright then…a pic to start things off…
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The above pic is of the patched setup for running the Laney as the master/dry amp, and the Phaez as the slave/wet amp. The tiny patchbay is on the top right side of the Phaez, and the Radial ABY is top near center.
So, the Laney’s fx send is tapped, but not interrupted, sent to the fx loop chain, the fx chain is returned to the isolated ground lift of the ABY, and patched into the effects return on the Phaez.
Holy smokes this sounds huge! Dead quiet too!
No video yet, I’m not feelin’ it right now…. I’m a bit under the weather.
I will throw some mic’s up in the near future though….14X12s…..this rig sounds brutal!
 
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Hmmm. 14x12 …. Interesting!!
Yeah….that was the way the speaker cabs were configured, so I went with it.
2x12 and 4x12 under the Mesa for a 4 Ω load from the Phaez.
Two 4x12 cabs under the Phaez, in the following pic, for an 8 Ω load from the Laney.
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You should probably join me in this quest….your wife, and neighbors, will thank you!
;)
Seriously though, I may separate the 2x12 to match with the Phaez, and add the Peavey Classic 30 (behind the bass and guitar racks) and a 1x12 extension cab, for a wet/dry/wet stereo effects rig….just for a giggle.
I’m seeing that Radial has an excellent solution available in their Shotgun pedal…
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:cheers:
 
So anyway….my OCD on this has led me to order a cheap, passive, box from Samson.
The Samson SAMLI1 MLI1 Mono Passive Isolation Box. It does the one thing that I used the Radial ABY for. I hope it comes through for my application. If it does, I may order a second one. I love the little, purpose built, studio tools.
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It should be here by Saturday…perhaps I will feel better by then.
:cheers:
 
So anyway….my OCD on this has led me to order a cheap, passive, box from Samson.
The Samson SAMLI1 MLI1 Mono Passive Isolation Box. It does the one thing that I used the Radial ABY for. I hope it comes through for my application. If it does, I may order a second one. I love the little, purpose built, studio tools.
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It should be here by Saturday…perhaps I will feel better by then.
:cheers:
That’s what I like about you.
When faced with a rabbit hole. You take the red pill no questions asked and dive in head first.
 
That’s what I like about you.
When faced with a rabbit hole. You take the red pill no questions asked and dive in head first.
I’ve been toying with the idea of this setup for a while now. It’s part of the reason I picked up the ABY switch…little different scenario on that one though. That one was to run bass to two amps, inserting different effects on each branch.
Since the band seems to be done, I’d really like to be able to choose any combination of amps, cabs, and effects, in a modular fashion with ease. That’s why @Don O ’s speaker switcher appeals to my sensibilities so much. It’s just a matter of time with that one. Your query into fx loop switching got me thinking about it again. It’s been a relatively small investment so far, and if the newest piece works out….it will give me some super flexibility to explore.
 
I’ve been toying with the idea of this setup for a while now. It’s part of the reason I picked up the ABY switch…little different scenario on that one though. That one was to run bass to two amps, inserting different effects on each branch.
Since the band seems to be done, I’d really like to be able to choose any combination of amps, cabs, and effects, in a modular fashion with ease. That’s why @Don O ’s speaker switcher appeals to my sensibilities so much. It’s just a matter of time with that one. Your query into fx loop switching got me thinking about it again. It’s been a relatively small investment so far, and if the newest piece works out….it will give me some super flexibility to explore.
In summary, I’m an enabler.
I am now truly a TTR member!
 
Yeah….that was the way the speaker cabs were configured, so I went with it.
2x12 and 4x12 under the Mesa for a 4 Ω load from the Phaez.
Two 4x12 cabs under the Phaez, in the following pic, for an 8 Ω load from the Laney.
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You should probably join me in this quest….your wife, and neighbors, will thank you!
;)
Seriously though, I may separate the 2x12 to match with the Phaez, and add the Peavey Classic 30 (behind the bass and guitar racks) and a 1x12 extension cab, for a wet/dry/wet stereo effects rig….just for a giggle.
I’m seeing that Radial has an excellent solution available in their Shotgun pedal…
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:cheers:
I really like this one. This would probably be best for my limited needs. I could simultaneously play through two Marshalls, a Hiwatt, and a DST. That sounds like a whole lot of fun.
 
Alright then….it’s Saturday….and I just got the little Samson box…it does indeed work as expected. Absolutely quiet wet/dry amp setup. I’m very happy, but soon after I’d ordered I had second thoughts. I thought about it for a bit, and searched around a bit, and remembered that I had recommended a little box to @steveb63 (I think) to quiet his studio monitors…and though it wasn’t going to be suitable to my needs, there is a related device that would have been. From the same old ART line:


Oh sure….TWO channels of transformer isolation in one box. :facepalm: I should have known to look, but I’ve been a bit under the weather….whatever….I got the job done with minimal suffering, and expenditure. If I want two channels, I will have not spent much more(I’m talking about pennies here…maybe a dime…that’s all). However, I did feel the need to point it out just in case anyone was interested.

A bonus in today’s delivery was a great big decibel meter:
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I’ve seen similar ones in the background of YouTube videos….kinda have wanted one for the studio for a while. I liked the temperature and humidity readings too. Bonus.
So, I took my loot to the studio, and messed around a bit. Come to find out…I get to see a lot of the angry/sad/crying red face flashing when I’m playing. Big surprise… a fun distraction…plus….informative.
I will see if I have the ambition to put together a demo video later on, but I just had a blast playing through the rig with the T-60 for a bit. Gonna give my ears a rest for a little while. But I do look forward to playing around with some mic’s soon.
 
Alright then….it’s Saturday….and I just got the little Samson box…it does indeed work as expected. Absolutely quiet wet/dry amp setup. I’m very happy, but soon after I’d ordered I had second thoughts. I thought about it for a bit, and searched around a bit, and remembered that I had recommended a little box to @steveb63 (I think) to quiet his studio monitors…and though it wasn’t going to be suitable to my needs, there is a related device that would have been. From the same old ART line:


Oh sure….TWO channels of transformer isolation in one box. :facepalm: I should have known to look, but I’ve been a bit under the weather….whatever….I got the job done with minimal suffering, and expenditure. If I want two channels, I will have not spent much more(I’m talking about pennies here…maybe a dime…that’s all). However, I did feel the need to point it out just in case anyone was interested.

A bonus in today’s delivery was a great big decibel meter:
View attachment 88496
I’ve seen similar ones in the background of YouTube videos….kinda have wanted one for the studio for a while. I liked the temperature and humidity readings too. Bonus.
So, I took my loot to the studio, and messed around a bit. Come to find out…I get to see a lot of the angry/sad/crying red face flashing when I’m playing. Big surprise… a fun distraction…plus….informative.
I will see if I have the ambition to put together a demo video later on, but I just had a blast playing through the rig with the T-60 for a bit. Gonna give my ears a rest for a little while. But I do look forward to playing around with some mic’s soon.
Where did you get the meter?
 
Alright then….it’s Saturday….and I just got the little Samson box…it does indeed work as expected. Absolutely quiet wet/dry amp setup. I’m very happy, but soon after I’d ordered I had second thoughts. I thought about it for a bit, and searched around a bit, and remembered that I had recommended a little box to @steveb63 (I think) to quiet his studio monitors…and though it wasn’t going to be suitable to my needs, there is a related device that would have been. From the same old ART line:


Oh sure….TWO channels of transformer isolation in one box. :facepalm: I should have known to look, but I’ve been a bit under the weather….whatever….I got the job done with minimal suffering, and expenditure. If I want two channels, I will have not spent much more(I’m talking about pennies here…maybe a dime…that’s all). However, I did feel the need to point it out just in case anyone was interested.

A bonus in today’s delivery was a great big decibel meter:
View attachment 88496
I’ve seen similar ones in the background of YouTube videos….kinda have wanted one for the studio for a while. I liked the temperature and humidity readings too. Bonus.
So, I took my loot to the studio, and messed around a bit. Come to find out…I get to see a lot of the angry/sad/crying red face flashing when I’m playing. Big surprise… a fun distraction…plus….informative.
I will see if I have the ambition to put together a demo video later on, but I just had a blast playing through the rig with the T-60 for a bit. Gonna give my ears a rest for a little while. But I do look forward to playing around with some mic’s soon.
And quiet monitors I now have!

Cool post, food for thought.......
 
Hey, what's up with that Classic 30 at the far right?
Did Peavey make a 3x12 version, or is it just elongated by the wide angle lens?
Oh! That stack of stuff belongs to the other guitar player from my band…he has no room for it right now, and since the footprint is fairly small…I don’t mind taking care of it for him. When I say ”stack of stuff” I mean his Crate 4x12(WGS loaded), and the *Peavey Classic 50 2x12* that sits on top of it. I’ve got a SS Crate head, that I just fixed up for him, that needs to be shoehorned in there too…plus a Blue Voodoo that I’m trying to diagnose(lazily), and fix.

My Classic 30 1x12 is to the left, beside that stack…sitting on an Orange 1x12.
 
Oh! That stack of stuff belongs to the other guitar player from my band…he has no room for it right now, and since the footprint is fairly small…I don’t mind taking care of it for him. When I say ”stack of stuff” I mean his Crate 4x12(WGS loaded), and the *Peavey Classic 50 2x12* that sits on top of it. I’ve got a SS Crate head, that I just fixed up for him, that needs to be shoehorned in there too…plus a Blue Voodoo that I’m trying to diagnose(lazily), and fix.

My Classic 30 1x12 is to the left, beside that stack…sitting on an Orange 1x12.
I remember the head version of the Blue Voodoo being really raunchy.

In a good way. Should be growling once you get it attended to.
 
And quiet monitors I now have!

Cool post, food for thought.......
Hi Steve! Glad to read of the quiet! Yeah, in this case, I have no regrets with my choice, but good to know that there is an equally affordable alternative. I say that because I know that I may want to have both channels of isolation in different physical locations, for convenience sakes. For, virtually, the same price. It may save me on cable runs.
 
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