NM&ID...Going The Way Of Ray...

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New Mixer&Interface Day!

So, I’ve been interacting with Ray for a while now, trying to help him acquaint himself with the multitrack USB mixer that he picked up a while back. I’ve become very interested in it over the time we’ve spent learning together. I’m very familiar with Soundcraft regular production mixers in general, having owned three over the past 25 years. I just traded my first one, a fully functional, early 90s, 12 channel powered mixer that shares much of the architecture of the current live mixer line up...just not quite as lit up as the current crop. It worked well for the whole time I had it, and lived through some of my band’s heaviest gigging. I’ve tried a couple other brands when looking to increase channel count, but never found one that i really liked until I found my Soundcraft GB12-2. An awesome board that has been a workhorse in my studio setup for a decade now...love it...wouldn’t hesitate to replace it with another one if I had to.
A few years ago I wanted another, smaller, lightweight mixer for playing out, as we were doing more, and more cover gigs...so I grabbed an EPM12. It works well, and I have a recording interface that can pull signal at the inserts, and could make some decent live recordings with that set up...but that was only for special occasions. It was another box that needed power, an external hard drive that needed babying, a 12 channel TRS snake, and of course a few more mic’s to set up.

Anyway, long story longer... When Ray was looking to upgrade his USB mixer, I naturally suggested a line that had performed well for me in my experience. He originally had his sights set on the plain Soundcraft Signature 12. The larger base model USB mixer that sends 2 channels(master left and right) to a computer via USB. The board seemed to be Spec’d well enough for his needs...they had stuffed some of their good preamps in it, at least. I told him it looked pretty cool(and familiar) to me, probably a serviceable bit of kit. So he comes back with a bargain price on their higher end Signature 12MTK, asks me what I think...

Now I have one too...

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After the cat helped me unbox it tonight...
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This should be fun.


Up to 14 individual tracks out to computer DAW via USB(or to an iOS device-iPad/iPhone-it is class compliant) 6-8 mono, up to 3 stereo, and the master bus.
Up to 12 tracks can be routed from the DAW to the mixer channels via USB for analog summing. That’s something unusual at this price point...and kinda cool to me.
It has its quirks though...the USB track sends are in the same place on each channel that a mixer would have an insert...right after the preamp, but before the way cool equalizer.
Something I am used to, but I think it bums Ray out...he likes to play with the knobs and stuff.
I kinda wish it had another insert point (a hardware one for external compressors and such) after the USB insert point...but hey...it’s not a pricey unit, and that’s cool.

This should really be fun.
 
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I MIGHT NEED THIS
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it hurts my eyes to look at it-----------------

However -- I am certain it will be a GREAT bit of kit for a talented fellow as yourself and I wish you much luck and happiness with it :)


when Thor lets me borrow the Hammer though.....I cant predict the outcome.....though I am sure I will be SMITING others for months before I get around to the control board recording thingy you just got -- actually I will probably get ........OH A SQUIRREL......hey..............


so no worries
 
Alright then...after a hockey game, a couple of beers, and my first session with this mixer in to my trusty old iPad...my first four tracks are done....horribly(insert Madeline Kahn voice over there).
2 tracks, same guitar, amp, and mic(position etc)
2 tracks vocals, same mic(etc)
Remember...I may have been enjoying the hockey game a bit....
This is an original...first verse, and chorus. A really simple tune, nothing fancy.
All tracks are first takes...one and done...just to put something down, and check quality.(I think my levels were a bit hot...could’ve been worse though, I guess)
Anyway...
Cruising Under My Ring Around This Sun, is the name of the song.

C. U. M. R. A. T. S..wav
 
Thanks a lot guys!

Very nice! I could have tell that the recording was hot. Maybe you can teach me what you hear.

Toward the end of the chorus, tuned to D#, I play a low open D#Major to sus4...after the line, “I know I will touch this sun”..I can hear the two guitars get a little break up there(I got a little heavy handed). That break up is not the amp. It’s somewhere after the mic... so the mic pre was probably set a little hot. The breakup is a little crispy sounding to me, not digital though...I don’t think.
 
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Good work, Don...good mix, good guitar work too!

Nice of you to say Robert, thanks.
Not a lot going on in the mix. Static track levels, panning, and a lot of reverb on the vocals. The guitars are noise gate(NS-2) to amp, 1 mic to board preamp, directly out to iPad, no eq or effects (other than the ones from the amp), one track panned to the left, the other panned to the right...neither fully. The master bus has just the tiniest touch of light compression, and a slight touch of eq on the high end.
I can still hear the beer in it though.
It was a spur of the moment thing, I think it took about 45 minutes to set up, track, and rough mix...the song is twice as long as the sample I posted...clocking in a bit over 3 minutes.
 
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WOW!! that is really a nice piece of equipment !! I just got on here what track are the guys referring to?

Maybe this one?

Alright then...after a hockey game, a couple of beers, and my first session with this mixer in to my trusty old iPad...my first four tracks are done....horribly(insert Madeline Kahn voice over there).
2 tracks, same guitar, amp, and mic(position etc)
2 tracks vocals, same mic(etc)
Remember...I may have been enjoying the hockey game a bit....
This is an original...first verse, and chorus. A really simple tune, nothing fancy.
All tracks are first takes...one and done...just to put something down, and check quality.(I think my levels were a bit hot...could’ve been worse though, I guess)
Anyway...
Cruising Under My Ring Around This Sun, is the name of the song.

C. U. M. R. A. T. S..wav
 
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