Gibson Pickup:

Mr Grumpy said:
Maybe that LP that he hated or the SG faded he hated at first...Robert is a superb player and musician, but so bloody OCD...
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True!!! I have actually gotten better about those OCD habits of late and branched out into other areas...although its been a long journey.
 
Mr Grumpy said:
You will disappointed - the 57 plus in the bridge of an SG for rock music through a Marshall is horrible, imho...
(The Angus Young is the best Gibson puppy for that... Hell, I'm not using mine, send my your address and I'll send it to you for free!)
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It's kind of an experiment I suppose. The last time I tried a 57 set (in my SG) I had a bunch of noise/short circuit (internal) problems with them, so I wanted to try another.

That's very kind of you, Man!!!!!
 
Mr Grumpy said:
It doesn't matter...

You're an excellent player, you enjoy your music, you understand music, so it's all good.
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You know, Mom and Pop have been here a week and we've been visiting and jamming here constantly.

She was so surprised that I bought a Blackstar, after years of an 'only Marshall' addiction, and we started talking about it. We actually chuckled when comparing our relative OCD levels.

We think that a lot of people suffer from OCD, but Mom thinks a lot of our issues were self-cultivated to a great degree.

Growing up working in Pop's classic car shop and in Mom's studio, everything was about quality, and I guess I took it a bit too far.

But lately, I've relaxed a lot and I'm enjoying things more....
 
Mr Grumpy said:
You will disappointed - the 57 plus in the bridge of an SG for rock music through a Marshall is horrible, imho...
(The Angus Young is the best Gibson puppy for that... Hell, I'm not using mine, send my your address and I'll send it to you for free!)
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I guess how you feel about the 57 Classic+ will depend only the amp and style of music, as well as personal preference. I swapped the magnet from A2 o A5 in the 57 Classic+ in my Faded Special, and the sound (in my purely personal humble opinion) went from "Yeah!" to "HELL YEAH!!"
 
Mr Grumpy said:
You will disappointed - the 57 plus in the bridge of an SG for rock music through a Marshall is horrible, imho...
(The Angus Young is the best Gibson puppy for that... Hell, I'm not using mine, send my your address and I'll send it to you for free!)
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I'd put the regular '57 right up there with the best SG bridge tone I have ever had. Agreed that the plus is too bright/too hot for an SG. Borderline too bright for a Les Paul even.
 
67plexi said:
Pickups won't make a crap sounding guitar sound good. My 2015 Gibson SG DT I went as far to put real PAF'S still a tone turd.

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But here he says both guitars are good, so he's not trying to "cure" a bad guitar by changing the pickups. Not even clear to me what the question he poses (tonewood or pickups) really means in the context of this video. Best tone I hear in this video by far is the LPC with the Burstbucker, so I guess that makes the point that it's not necessarily either tonewood or pickups?
 
gball said:
I'd put the regular '57 right up there with the best SG bridge tone I have ever had. Agreed that the plus is too bright/too hot for an SG. Borderline too bright for a Les Paul even.
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I have no idea about the brightness of which you speak...maybe this was the reason Bill Lawrence liked the 220k ohm resistor on the bridge???
 
Get the 57+ in there, Robert, and feed back your opinion.

Many folks really like the 57s.

I like the 490r in the neck, and the 57c sounds as good but more versatile in that position.
 
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we are supposed to practice?
 
67plexi said:
To each his or her own. Most of my guitars are 100% stock I'd rather spend my time practicing. I have tried to cure a bad sounding guitar with pickup swap it does not work.
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All mine are stock too. But that wasn't always the case: I spent too much time and money in my younger days modding guitars only to find out it results in incremental differences at best. Did a pickup change ever make a guitar better? Depends on who you ask - every change is a compromise in one direction or another; you make a change to gain one thing and you lose something else. Lateral moves if you're lucky, worse sounding guitar if not.
 
This one was "lateral"
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Texas WOunds installed--- made it DIFFERENT thanb stock-- not really BETTER --- not really worse-----
THis one
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removing the EMG "p" pickups (all it had when purchased) and replacing with passive Schaller "P"s and a BIG OL DIMMARRZIO MUDPLUCKER--- have this "Lil EB-0 " sounding HUGE RICH AND LOW

SO first pup swap ----barely worth the effort --- second one HUGE HUGE HUGE difference

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eSGEe said:
removing the EMG "p" pickups (all it had when purchased) and replacing with passive Schaller "P"s and a BIG OL DIMMARRZIO MUDPLUCKER--- have this "Lil EB-0 " sounding HUGE RICH AND LOW

SO first pup swap ----barely worth the effort --- second one HUGE HUGE HUGE difference
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That's why I say it depends who you ask: to someone else the EMGs would be perfection. No matter what you change you give something else up. At this point I just focus on buying guitars that I like, both in playability and tone, and that way I don't have to obsess about changing things.
 
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