Fine Tune Your Guitar Pots!

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Well, I found myself bored this afternoon, so I decided to equalize 5 pots I just got. These are standard CTS 500k standard shaft audio taper pots for use in an SG, Flying V or something similar. If you are not using CTS pots some or none of this may apply.
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Here I have measured each pot and numbered them from highest to lowest resistance.
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Here you can see what I am starting with for values and that I have started to pry up the four tabs holding the pot together. I use a standard X-Acto knife. It's either a #1 or #2. The blade is small and thin enough to easily get under the tabs. I finish bringing them up straight to vertical with a small pliers.
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Looks like this.
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Here's what you want to end up with. The mounting shaft easily comes off, then remove and turn over the carbon track. This is what we will be working on. The actual rotating shaft and wiper can just stay sitting in the base cup. There is some grease underneath of this and that is it for parts. If you lift the shaft and wiper up you can see why you don't want to apply too much heat to the back of the pot. It will cook out all of the grease.

Now I measure the resistance of the carbon track using the two outside lugs. #1 pot has the highest resistance, so that is what I am shooting for. With the lugs facing you use the X-Acto knife to scrape a tiny bit of the carbon off of the very outside edge starting by the left wiper. Test the resistance again and keep doing this working clockwise around the carbon until you get to the desired resistance. Check where the brass wiper rides on the carbon. You want to keep to the outside of this.
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It should end up looking like this or better. My eyes aren't that great.

Now, reassemble the same way it was taken apart. Use the small pliers to bend the tabs back over and make sure they are tight. Recheck the resistance from the left lug to center lug both off and fully on. You should have 0.0 ohms off and whatever your final reading was. It might be 1 or 2 ohms higher since you are measuring through the wiper assembly. As a final check, with your ohmmeter attached, do a complete swipe slowly from off to fully open watching the meter to make sure it has a steady increase with no severe jumps or drop outs. You are done.
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Starting figures are on the left. Final scraped numbers in the center and final reassembled values are on the right.

I saved over $20 by doing this myself in 15 minutes versus buying the 550k pots from WD Music. I got these from Amplified parts for $4.50 each.
 
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Well, I found myself bored this afternoon, so I decided to equalize 5 pots I just got. These are standard CTS 500k standard shaft audio taper pots for use in an SG, Flying V or something similar. If you are not using CTS pots some or none of this may apply.
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Here I have measured each pot and numbered them from highest to lowest resistance.
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Here you can see what I am starting with for values and that I have started to pry up the four tabs holding the pot together. I use a standard X-Acto knife. It's either a #1 or #2. The blade is small and thin enough to easily get under the tabs. I finish bringing them up straight to vertical with a small pliers.
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Looks like this.
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Here's what you want to end up with. The mounting shaft easily comes off, then remove and turn over the carbon track. This is what we will be working on. The actual rotating shaft and wiper can just stay sitting in the base cup. There is some grease underneath of this and that is it for parts. If you lift the shaft and wiper up you can see why you don't want to apply too much heat to the back of the pot. It will cook out all of the grease.

Now I measure the resistance of the carbon track using the two outside lugs. #1 pot has the highest resistance, so that is what I am shooting for. With the lugs facing you use the X-Acto knife to scrape a tiny bit of the carbon off of the very outside edge starting by the left wiper. Test the resistance again and keep doing this working clockwise around the carbon until you get to the desired resistance. Check where the brass wiper rides on the carbon. You want to keep to the outside of this.
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It should end up looking like this or better. My eyes aren't that great.

Now, reassemble the same way it was taken apart. Use the small pliers to bend the tabs back over and make sure they are tight. Recheck the resistance from the left lug to center lug both off and fully on. You should have 0.0 ohms off and whatever your final reading was. It might be 1 or 2 ohms higher since you are measuring through the wiper assembly. As a final check, with your ohmmeter attached, do a complete swipe slowly from off to fully open watching the meter to make sure it has a steady increase with no severe jumps or drop outs. You are done.
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Starting figures are on the left. Final scraped numbers in the center and final reassembled values are on the right.

I saved over $20 by doing this myself in 15 minutes versus buying the 550k pots from WD Music. I got these from Amplified parts for $4.50 each.
That's pretty sad that among 5 pots, there is almost 100K difference between them.
But they are 20% pots, so...
 
That's much more acceptable and cuter @eSGEe

I didn't even check before, but I ended up with 525K +/- <1%. I should sell these. 15 bucks each?
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Here you can see how I set up the grounds with buss wire. I got this idea from Premier Guitar. Some pro tech does this. Seems like a good idea. No bending of the ground leg and all grounds will be attached to the buss wire including pickup outer shielding. Absolutely nothing gets soldered to the back of the pot case. I picked the 528.8k and 529.6k pots for volume and 521.1k and 522.8k for tone. I have a roll of 2" x33' copper shielding tape coming from Lowe's. $14.99 per roll which is way less than I was able to find it for from a guitar shop. I am going to strip down the SG later this week, shield the pickup cavities and control cavity, pot the pickups and rewire the whole thing. Now I am going to play for awhile.
 
That's handy to know. I've made a few "no load" tone pots by cutting the trace completely at one of the outermost lugs.

The CTS pots are very nicely modular. Maybe I should get around to converting my Les Paul pots to reverse taper as it doesn't feel like I'll get used to the pots rotating the "correct" way. Probably need to get some reverse speed knobs as well..
 
I only just saw this thread.
I use CTS pots most all the time, especially in amp builds, for exactly the reason that they are easy to open & "adjust" the value. I leave the ohm meter (multimeter) attached to the outer two lugs on the wafer, then use very fine wet n dry paper to lightly & evenly wipe the entire length of the resistive element with each stroke, so as not to mess with the pot's "taper". Works very well & I can usually dial in the value reasonably accurately (though most often not "exactly"). Cheers
 
Maybe I should get around to converting my Les Paul pots to reverse taper as it doesn't feel like I'll get used to the pots rotating the "correct" way. Probably need to get some reverse speed knobs as well..
I have linear volume pots in a few guitars, I like the way they roll off better than the modern 10% taper audio tapes pots, which are too abrupt. Cheers
 
Very nice work.

I like the ground bus 'hoop' idea very much. I started using 1k pots on my humbucker builds quite some time ago, and 300k pots on single coil builds, primarily to save time when working on multiple guitars.

I also use the 525k 'close tolerance' 5% pots when I need a pot with a specific value. I can get them from Art Of Tone in Ventura, California.

I get (4) CTS pots, all within 5% for $22.46. I keep several sets on hand, both long and short.

I'm not knocking your work, it just don't have the time to do that when I'm doing multiple guitars at once.
 
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I was expecting the resistance to decrease when you removed carbon. What am I missing?
Tx

Me too...

If you think about the garden hose analogy that's often used for electricity, if your hose has a constriction (resistor track) in it and you make the constriction smaller (sand the surface of the resistor track), the obstruction to the flow (resistance) increases.

Or...

Resistance of a conductive object (such as a copper wire or the track of a potentiometer) can be calculated with the formula Resistance (R) = Resistivity ( ϱ ) * (Length (l) / Cross-Sectional Area (A).

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Imagine you have a piece of graphite that’s 10 mm (0.01 m) long and 1 mm3 (1*10-9 m3) square in cross-section. Let’s assume that the resistivity of graphite is 2.5*10-6 Ω⋅m. So the resistance will be

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Suppose you shave half off the cross-section so it’s only 0.5mm3 (5.0*10-10 m3). The resistance will now be:

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Or something like that.
 
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