Counterfeit Guitars seized

SG John said:
Am I the only one who sees the irony of a thread starting about seized counterfeits intended to defraud individuals and larceny, move on to the defense of having said counterfeits, then go on about what weapons are owned to defend against larceny? You people have issues.

I love punk, also like disco. At least Robin and Barry Gibb played their own instruments. Since funk was going out of fashion, all those musicians had to grab other gigs, so disco it was. Love many other genres too, except maybe whatever Lawrence Welk gets put into.

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You don't like my ray gun?
It's only a "little" plutonium, lighten up.
 
In all honesty, my EDS-1275 shaped double neck is also a counterfeit. My Tele-shaped builds were also counterfeits because they borrowed an established body shape, even with my own name on the headstocks.

My counterfeit Gibson's are basically just stage props that happen to play very, very well. At present, both are out on loan for video shoots.

In my case, I see my grage-built counterfeit Gibson no differently than I see Slash's Kris Derrig replica Les Paul.

It's not for sale, it's easy to tell its not real upon close inspection and it's really just to fulfill my childhood dream of owning a tuxedo Les Paul Custom.

I traded @eSGEe a 2017 Gibson SG T Series for a Chibster Slash AFD knock off, just to have a '59 Les Paul' stage prop for performances and videos.

I really can't comment on firearms ownership or political affiliation, because none of us will agree on those things.

On my YelloStrat build, everything I have bought for it is USA made...the screws are Fender, the custom Humbucker pickup is DiMarzio, the pickguard is made in Chico, California, the strings are Ernie Ball, the neck is Warmoth...etc., and I feel like the USA made stuff really is top shelf.
 
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jtcnj said:
disco
* shudders *
If I had benefited from the club scene by scoring repeatedly with coke-horny frenzied young ladies I might have a more positive take.
the Saturday Night "Fever"
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When I was growing up, there was "MAD," musicians against disco.

So a friend wrote a disco song describing how awful disco really was....

But I still think Al Greene invented disco, and he is the only one in history who really played it right.

Microchip angles take your hand, as they lead you up into disco land.

There are some rhythms that you can't ignore.
They don't knock lightly, they just break down the door.
They push your feet as they pulse through the floor.
Our minds are on idle as they go from 1 to four.

All the machines play with one hand.
Everything's OK, down in discoland.

There was a message when 2 brain cells crossed.
It sent out the message; like a shot in the dark it was lost.
We're trying to find it but we might get lost.
Our fears have us frozen, like the dew turned into frost.

All the machines play with one hand.
Everything's OK, down in discoland.

We know we're OK we're wearing the right clothes.
We know what we pay and we know that it shows.
The manuals say: you're hot when the tube glows.
Four minutes to play, let's see how the song goes - and goes and goes.

Come on ye people and take your stand, everything's OK down in discoland.
 
only if it says Gibson on the headstock, or made to appear to be a Gibson product when it is not.
copies of the design, or the alleged copyright infringement is a whole different issue.

I love that. I have a similar EPI cheapy currently up for sale locally.

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Robert Herndon said:
In all honesty, my EDS-1275 shaped double neck is also a counterfeit. My Tele-shaped builds were also counterfeits because they borrowed an established body shape, even with my own name on the headstock.
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No sir. It is a copy, or a tribute. Gibson may want to sue you over trade dress theft, but it is clearly not labeled as a Gibson...it does not bear their trademark....so....copy, not counterfeit.
 
Robert Herndon said:
I wish I could have found one (a Gibson) that worked for me!!!

But, the Schecter is perfect straight from the box and gives me zero troubles and it's priced around $1,400.00 which is very reasonable.
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Now if I could find one of those Schecters for $400 I would go for it. Same goes for most Gibson's, Fender's or even a Godin or PRS.
 
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Robert Herndon said:
I wish I could have found one (a Gibson) that worked for me!!!

But, the Schecter is perfect straight from the box and gives me zero troubles and it's priced around $1,400.00 which is very reasonable.
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Also, I understand the concern and disappointment one has if a new guitar is purchased has issues. That would be like me finding it being analogous to a new car purchased, and as one drives it off from the dealer, the steering wheel comes off, one wheel is loose, and the engine makes weird noises at a red light. Total suckage factor.
 
Thatbastarddon said:
No sir. It is a copy, or a tribute. Gibson may want to sue you over trade dress theft, but it is clearly not labeled as a Gibson...it does not bear their trademark....so....copy, not counterfeit.
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And likely Robert's copies don't have Gibson Style or Fender Style Serial numbers that might or might not match customary Factory numbers etc as Counterfeit ones typically try to pass off.
 
chilipeppermaniac said:
And likely Robert's copies don't have Gibson Style or Fender Style Serial numbers that might or might not match customary Factory numbers etc as Counterfeit ones typically try to pass off.
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My guitars typically have my birthdate or their date of manufacture as the serial number.

The Chibster Slash/AFD does have a fake Gibson serial, but it doesn't seem to come up in guitar serial number databases.
 
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