But...it's an ELECTRIC guitar, man...

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I was having this conversation with an old playing buddy. He claims that if he picks up an electric guitar and it doesn't "sing" acoustically then he won't even plug it in, no matter how nice it plays. I contend that you have no idea how an electric actually sounds unless it is plugged in (and two of mine are absolute crap acoustically but sound magical through an amp, and I've played others that rang out beautifully unplugged but were dogs when jacked). What say you TTR'ers?
 
It has to play nicely and be comfortable first off. While electronics can be changed, is it worth it to change out? Although if a guitar sustains like a banjo acoustically then it will suck electrically. I think the wood has some bearing on tone, otherwise all guitars with the same pickups should sound exactly alike.
My Ibanez Artist 325 is a beautiful guitar. Light, plays well, nice neck joint...
Has way less ouput than my LPs. I would prefer more. So I could change out the PUp to a hotter one. But is it worth it?
Has a bit of neck drop amd the toggle is in a terrible place to bump while playimg.

I figure I will likely trade it in. Doesn't turn my crank electrically.


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I dunno, I do fully intend to play an electric guitar plugged in for sure, BUT

I do have a couple that just resonate beautifully when unplugged. I know that whatever pickups or whatever I decide to put in them are going to be affected by this. For better or worse.

On the other hand, did my Squier Strat sound any better or worse than my Jackson JS dinky when I was trying my EMGs in them? Not really, sounded the same to me.

But I bet if I put those EMGs in one of the others, man, they'd probably be pretty killer and yet they'd still sound like the EMGs...

I certainly wouldn't want a "dead" guitar. I want it to sing unplugged. I want to feel the resonance vibrations running through the wood and into my hands. But I fully intend to play it plugged in

Maybe I am strange

Interesting question
 
noticed in selection.. favor a super resonant & lively & non dead characteristic. A good example is a FR..what a dif "feeling" to me being so used to Gibson bridges.. sound always plays a huge factor. This last year..since set home studio up..under the mic...many..many observations. are filed away & not worth getting into.
 
I was having this conversation with an old playing buddy. He claims that if he picks up an electric guitar and it doesn't "sing" acoustically then he won't even plug it in, no matter how nice it plays. I contend that you have no idea how an electric actually sounds unless it is plugged in (and two of mine are absolute crap acoustically but sound magical through an amp, and I've played others that rang out beautifully unplugged but were dogs when jacked). What say you TTR'ers?
I put my ear against the body and listen, I can tell quite a lot about it.
The wood and the shape definitely has the most influence on the sound of an electric guitar.

The pickups are only a reflection of how the guitar wood itself sounds.
The sound quality does not come from the pickups or the electronics.

if you want to call this a "tone wood" argument, go right ahead.
The best sounding electric guitars are from very carefully selected woods.

I have had guitars that sounded totally dead.
And no matter what PUs, or nut, or anything else did not change that at all.
It still sounded dead.
I learned that it's the wood from long experience, much trials, many pickups, and much listening.
It "is" the wood.

If you don't believe this:
try building an electric guitar out of particle board.
Or, plywood for that matter.
Even if you put a $10,000 PU on it, it will still sound like crap. No matter what, it's crap.

PS I know Paul Reed Smith.
He modified my guitar for me many years ago.
He picks the wood by tapping and listening.
So did many other famous Luthiers....including Stradivarius.
Now listen to a kick ass guitar. (because of the wood)



Now check this out:
Paul Reed Smith carved these bass and the guitar by hand.
These are 2 of the fist guitars he ever sold.
Listen to them closely.
 
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I put my ear against the body and listen, I can tell quite a lot about it.
The wood and the shape definitely has the most influence on the sound of an electric guitar.

The pickups are only a reflection of how the guitar wood itself sounds.
The sound quality does not come from the pickups or the electronics.

if you want to call this a "tone wood" argument, go right ahead.
The best sounding electric guitars are from very carefully selected woods.

I have had guitars that sounded totally dead.
And no matter what PUs, or nut, or anything else did not change that at all.
It still sounded dead.
I learned that it's the wood from long experience, much trials, many pickups, and much listening.
It "is" the wood.

If you don't believe this:
try building an electric guitar out of particle board.
Or, plywood for that matter.
Even if you put a $10,000 PU on it, it will still sound like crap. No matter what, it's crap.
have a few special guitars..can feel them in my chest unplugged..they are my lead players.. there is a note response that seems to translate in a quality..possibly 'rounder..fuller" note..even under the gain..which has become huge in placing leads in a dense mix..if i can get it there with guitar selection & amp & speaker.. wow does it make the song layer natural
 
noticed in selection.. favor a super resonant & lively & non dead characteristic. A good example is a FR..what a dif "feeling" to me being so used to Gibson bridges.. sound always plays a huge factor. This last year..since set home studio up..under the mic...many..many observations. are filed away & not worth getting into.
OK, here we go again... The Tone Wood vs. Tone Concrete debate...

I rest my case.
 
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I’ve changed the guts on enough electric guitars, enough times, that I’m confident that I can find a solution for most electronic shortcomings. So, I do judge first and foremost by unplugged play. Not for resonance, or sound, but for playability and intonation. Comfort is huge for me. I have to like the guitar on a physical level first. If it passes that inspection, then it’s on to plugging in to check for buzzing, sustain, and harmonics etc.
 
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