AMS--Soldering 101 class--the swamp deepens........

Can AMS teach eSGEe to solder?


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You forgot the happiness for me too, ESGEEEEraffe.. I was so proud of you.
Ya see, I was once in your shoes in a similar arena. Amp diagnosis and repair. While not being like riding a bike soldering or even reading resistor values, schematics etc, I was encouraged by none other than one of our former members here as he expressed confidence I COULD LEARN to fix my own amp. Having taken his faith in me and making it my own, I began to take the baby steps needed to fix amps.
Studying and asking questions, learning to read amp schematics and figuring out specs and what the components do, not only helped me fix amps, but when our furnace acted up, I was able to fix that too. My newly learned electronics/amp knowledge helped me diagnose the problem to a bad SOLDER connection on the control board. I was getting the expected readings and currents to parts like the inducer, igniter, blower etc, yet the thing would try to ignite and sometimes do so and other times cut off prematurely. It turns out where the buss bar the thermostat wires connected to, could either make the furnace work as it should or shut off when it should be firing up instead. I discovered if I wiggled or held it just so, I could make the furnace work 100%, or if I let go or wiggled it, the failure would occur.

SO, as you can see. not only was electronics understanding important, but SOLDERING was. All it needed to fix the issue, was to re-solder the connections tight. Much like my JMP 50 watt Marshall fooled even a pro tech to thinking it was a transformer, or like when I had the amp running 100% with Ivan and DonP's help, and yet the potential to fail at the worst time and in the worst way could happen at any time. AND IT DID happen. I could turn amp on, plug guitar in, take off standby and strum away and hear the guitar, then suddenly the signal would fizzle out and go quiet, despite the amp still running. A bad electrical connection was the culprit. LOOSE female to male connections in the OHMS selector switch was causing the amp to run and work, but then suddenly I would get no sound from the guitar. Self doubt could have defeated me but it didn't. Having gotten all good readings from the Trans's, Caps, Etc etc, I referred back to info I had learned online. Chop Stick probing tests. Amp on, guitar and speaker plugged in, it was time to see if I could touch something inside or out that would make a sound of some sort. After a bit, it happened, my chopstick wiggled one terminal on the selector and glorious crackling occurred. I manually manipulated the removable plug in selector cap, and the amp came to life. In the end, I disassembled the ohms selector and the voltage selectors to tighten up the tubular ferrules inside and thus would make proper and tight and reliable connections. The amp has not failed in over 3 years since.

Bottom line is, where once I couldn't ever imagine learning enough to understand how an amp ( or Furnace) works, I even surprised myself and now have knowledge and skills that will last a lifetime. This is also why I was so happy Adrian fixed his Strat with the new soldering iron I sent for him. I now am the one who has confidence he can learn and can turn a once dreaded experience into a victory and skill to last him a lifetime.

It's pretty amazing that only a few simple things to learn, almost anybody could solder.

But the problem was that there was nobody who mentioned what those few things were....and it remained a mystery for most students.

Mostly, it was just cleaning the metal. And, presto it works.
 
But the problem was that there was nobody who mentioned what those few things were....and it remained a mystery for most students.

Mostly, it was just cleaning the metal. And, presto.

Or in esgeee's case, a few other things. A mostly decent or adequate Iron. Good enough eyes to see the work, and of course clean metal. As I see it, the confidence or desire to learn and see how something is done right vs the hard way or giving up altogether is all that stands between doing it or giving up. With all the resources available, I have confidence almost anyone can learn.

Magnifying glasses help a lot, videos help a lot, and seeing it done in person also helps. I had all 3. Another fortunate experience I had was when a friend was essentially partnering up the the owner of Barber pedals and upon visiting them at the original basement shop one day, I was able to see my buddy's 15 year old daughter soldering parts onto the eyelets of the circuit boards. This is when I learned of the existence of thru the hole construction and connections and how it was done. Flash forward to my buying a new EQ slider for an Ampeg Bass amp I had. I discovered it was not a plug and play component but one that is thru hole soldered to the amp. Voila, I now only had to learn how to de-solder and remove the bad one. I had the re-soldering figured out.

Nothing like filing away something learned, for use on a rainy day down the road.
 
Or in esgeee's case, a few other things. A mostly decent or adequate Iron. Good enough eyes to see the work, and of course clean metal. As I see it, the confidence or desire to learn and see how something is done right vs the hard way or giving up altogether is all that stands between doing it or giving up. With all the resources available, I have confidence almost anyone can learn.

Magnifying glasses help a lot, videos help a lot, and seeing it done in person also helps. I had all 3. Another fortunate experience I had was when a friend was essentially partnering up the the owner of Barber pedals and upon visiting them at the original basement shop one day, I was able to see my buddy's 15 year old daughter soldering parts onto the eyelets of the circuit boards. This is when I learned of the existence of thru the hole construction and connections and how it was done. Flash forward to my buying a new EQ slider for an Ampeg Bass amp I had. I discovered it was not a plug and play component but one that is thru hole soldered to the amp. Voila, I now only had to learn how to de-solder and remove the bad one. I had the re-soldering figured out.

Nothing like filing away something learned, for use on a rainy day down the road.

I use a magnifier lamp. When you get to be as old as I am, it's priceless.

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So let's make a list of some soldering supplies that are going to be helpful:

Solder Station, or adjustable power soldering iron
Different sized tips
Solder Iron tip Cleaning ball
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Note: Do not use sandpaper to clean the soldering tip. The tip is plated metal. The sandpaper will strip the plating off of the tip.

Solder Sponge - if you are using a sponge, then wet the sponge with Distilled Water. Tap water contains contamination that might wreck your soldering.

Option: Tip Cleaner Paste
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Rosin Core solder or lead free solder with flux already in the solder
90% Isopropyl Alcohol - not rubbing alcohol, must be 90% or stronger. Purchase the alcohol at the Chemist, or Drug Store. USP alcohol, which is medical grade.
Scotch Bright pads
Paper Towels
Q Tips
Acid brushes and tooth brushes
Hair Dryer
Solder Wick
Solder Sucker Pump Option
Liquid electronic Solder Flux (extremely helpful) NOTE: Not plumbers flux ! Use electronic flux ONLY.

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Nitrile or rubber Gloves (chemical resistant, surgical gloves)
Eye Protection
Exhaust Fan
 
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YUP Ampmad, my thoughts exactly and I also use a lighted Magnifying visor.
dang that is a LOT of magnification.......do you get headaches???

Or in esgeee's case, a few other things. A mostly decent or adequate Iron. Good enough eyes to see the work, and of course clean metal.
there is also a patience level thing involved too--(I dont have many to spare) --- AND --- uninterrupted time---to concentrate on and do the work in a proper progression.

I DID solder the new pups IN the Firebird and UN soldered the old ones out -- (and the LIGHT on the soldering iron you sent Chili---pure Genius!!!!--thank you) this feat was accomplished early on a rainy Sunday morning while the Farm slept---no "issues" to deal with or water bottles to fill or ......giraffe poop to feed to dung beetles....calm-- quiet, and it went very well.....took my time planned my moves-- ALLOWED the iron to get good and hot before starting..............and it was good....all well all smooth -- no issues...and the outcome was a much improved instrument for me (I loved it before --now --- you get my Firebird over my dead body!!!) and new Gibbo P90's for Don O -- WIN WIN WIN ---

I would not--- nor do I have the smallest desire to ---solder say, an entire amp--or pedal---- or a Little mother "F"er" board--or a complete wiring harness etc etc.

I do in those cases prefer to rely on the superior skills of friends--- and the lunches -- and visiting--with said friends are a big part of that process and part of the fun--- hell it is what MOTM blossomed from!

For me soldering an amp by hand --- or a pedal-- is a kin to mowing my yard with a weed wacker ..........I CAN do it, but.........WHY.

So on the rare SPECIAL days ........when the stars and the world align and the moon is right with the tidal pull of the gravitational rotation of Mother Earth.........i will solder, and with the tips and hints and tricks learned here from all of you--- I will do so without murdering anyone in in the process..............the other 364.5 days out of the year.........
Ill just take it to Hack or Drumoid ;)
or FLIP it and get something that doesnt need solder :)
 
there is also a patience level thing involved too--(I dont have many to spare) --- AND --- uninterrupted time---to concentrate on and do the work in a proper progression.

This I knew. I have many projects that are undone, due to my own lack of patience, energy, or ability to devote unending time to make it from start to finish. Heck, sometimes I even fall asleep before I complete one of these statements.
 
dang that is a LOT of magnification.......do you get headaches???


there is also a patience level thing involved too--(I dont have many to spare) --- AND --- uninterrupted time---to concentrate on and do the work in a proper progression.

I DID solder the new pups IN the Firebird and UN soldered the old ones out -- (and the LIGHT on the soldering iron you sent Chili---pure Genius!!!!--thank you) this feat was accomplished early on a rainy Sunday morning while the Farm slept---no "issues" to deal with or water bottles to fill or ......giraffe poop to feed to dung beetles....calm-- quiet, and it went very well.....took my time planned my moves-- ALLOWED the iron to get good and hot before starting..............and it was good....all well all smooth -- no issues...and the outcome was a much improved instrument for me (I loved it before --now --- you get my Firebird over my dead body!!!) and new Gibbo P90's for Don O -- WIN WIN WIN ---

I would not--- nor do I have the smallest desire to ---solder say, an entire amp--or pedal---- or a Little mother "F"er" board--or a complete wiring harness etc etc.

I do in those cases prefer to rely on the superior skills of friends--- and the lunches -- and visiting--with said friends are a big part of that process and part of the fun--- hell it is what MOTM blossomed from!

For me soldering an amp by hand --- or a pedal-- is a kin to mowing my yard with a weed wacker ..........I CAN do it, but.........WHY.

So on the rare SPECIAL days ........when the stars and the world align and the moon is right with the tidal pull of the gravitational rotation of Mother Earth.........i will solder, and with the tips and hints and tricks learned here from all of you--- I will do so without murdering anyone in in the process..............the other 364.5 days out of the year.........
Ill just take it to Hack or Drumoid ;)
or FLIP it and get something that doesnt need solder :)

I never do rush jobs. I reject rush jobs.
Take your time, have patience. Use all the time you need and don't try to hurry.
Soldering is Art.
Devote yourself to this art.
 
Ampmad, this is what I do when I " don't rush things. One can't rush in stuff and still get a proper job. Oh and my aching back has diminished my mobility and strength needed to suffer through many of the tasks I have in front of me. Sitting and typing fortunately causes me no pain. Sadly sleeping does. Steve's bath before.jpgSteve's Tub Process.jpgSteves Bath.jpg
 
I don't enjoy soldering but I do it whenever necessary. My father taught me to do it correctly when I was quite young...he was an electrical engineer and he did a lot of prototyping at the Naval Research Laboratory, so he was constantly designing and building circuits, and even though he did that all day long he'd come home and build electrical projects as a hobby, so he'd pull me in to help where I wouldn't ruin everything.
 
We have MINOR -- OR MAJOR -- emergencies around here at unscheduled intervals which can turn a relaxing hour or two SOLDERING --into ......a --- OH CRAP I LEFT THE IRON ON -- because the dogs got in a fight--- the septic system is flowing the wrong way----a small air disaster occurred in the back yard (we are near the Airport) ---or a grand kid ate something unwise---or the Giraffe is puking on the neighbors rose garden again.....or SOMETHING is going into labor--- or breaking a leg -- or needs let it in or needs let out -- or is about to puke on the rug (an alarm clock that sounds like a dog getting ready to HURL would be 100% fool proof) --- etc......etc.-----AND BURNED DOWN THE HOUSE.......

So yes AMS -- TIMING -- a clear head -- and patience do make a HUGE difference -- and my last SOLDERING adventure was ........A pleasant one -- :)
Perhaps with the guidance and tips given here (and the purchase of a new up to date fire extinguisher) --- the next will be equally enjoyable........which if history is an indicator should occur sometime in late 2021......
:)
 
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